Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!mcvax!ukc!strath-cs!glasgow!gilbert From: gilbert@cs.glasgow.ac.uk (Gilbert Cockton) Newsgroups: comp.ai Subject: Re: Free Will & Self-Awareness Message-ID: <1099@crete.cs.glasgow.ac.uk> Date: 5 May 88 09:37:54 GMT References: <1029@crete.cs.glasgow.ac.uk> <4134@super.upenn.edu> <3200014@uiucdcsm> <1484@pt.cs.cmu.edu> <5100@pucc.Princeton.EDU> Reply-To: gilbert@cs.glasgow.ac.uk (Gilbert Cockton) Organization: Comp Sci, Glasgow Univ, Scotland Lines: 30 In article <5100@pucc.Princeton.EDU> RLWALD@pucc.Princeton.EDU writes: > Are you saying that AI research will be stopped because when it ignores >free will, it is immoral and people will take action against it? Research IS stopped for ethical reasons, especially in Medicine and Psychology. I could envisage pressure on institutions to limit its AI work to something which squares with our ideals of humanity. If the US military were not using technology which was way beyond the capability of its not-too-bright recruits, then most of the funding would dry up anyway. With the Pentagon's reported concentration on more short-term research, they may no longer be able to indulge their belief in the possibility of intelligent weaponry. > When has a 'doctrine' (which, by the way, is nothing of the sort with >respect to free will) any such relationship to what is possible? From this, I can only conclude that your understanding of social processes is non-existent. Behaviour is not classified as deviant because it is impossible, but because it is undesirable. I know of NO rational theory of society, so arguments that a computational model of human behaviour MAY be possible are utterly irrelevant. This is a typical academic argument, and as you know, academics have a limited influence on society. The question is, do most people WANT a computational model of human behaviour? In these days of near 100% public funding of research, this is no longer a question that can be ducked in the name of academic freedom. Everyone is free to study what they want, but public funding of a distasteful and dubious activity does not follow from this freedom. If funding were reduced, AI would join fringe areas such as astrology, futorology and palmistry. Public funding and institutional support for departments implies a legitimacy to AI which is not deserved.