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From: bobmon@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu (RAMontante)
Newsgroups: comp.binaries.ibm.pc.d
Subject: Re: ZOO/ARC Discussion
Message-ID: <8469@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu>
Date: 5 May 88 04:00:11 GMT
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Reply-To: bobmon@iuvax.UUCP (RAMontante)
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Indiana University
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loci@csccat.UUCP (Chuck Brunow) writes:
,phil@amdcad.UUCP (Phil Ngai) writes:
,>
,>My understanding is that zoo can handle directories and arc can't.  If
,>that is true, it would seem zoo is preferable.
,
,	??????????? what's preferable about that? Doesn't your system
,	have a file system? You know, the things that list when you
,	say "dir". Funny thing about the file system is that it's already
,	got directories (an idea they picked up from unix). 

I don't think you know what Ngai is talking about.  Zoo preserves the file
structure of the archived files, which is handy if you're collecting files
that wish to reside in different directories most of the time; you can restore
them into the same structure they came from.  If "his" system didn't have a
file system, _then_ he wouldn't need the ability to preserve the directory
information.  And "the file system" may not have picked up directories from
unix; there are operating systems even older, which also had the concept of
file systems and even directories.

,	The real problem seems to be the clustering used by MS-DOS which
,	is very wasteful of disk space. Why not go to the root of the
,	problem instead of the dumb layering scheme. Just because IBM
,	does stupid things (PC) is no reason to emulate them.

Are you suggesting bigger clusters, smaller clusters, or no clusters?  If the
latter, how to you propose to allocate disk space?  A bit at a time?  And why
do you bring up physical disk management in an argument about logical file
organization?

,>Make Japan the 51st state!
,
,	Now that really makes me mad. I'd rather make them a crater.

We made Alaska a state, and got the Alaskan oil fields.  We cratered Japan
once already, and got the current trade situation (and 256K memory chips, as
well).  Whose side are you on?