Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!steinmetz!davidsen From: davidsen@steinmetz.ge.com (William E. Davidsen Jr) Newsgroups: comp.lang.c Subject: Re: X3J11 response to comments (was: Block Closure) Message-ID: <10717@steinmetz.ge.com> Date: 4 May 88 17:47:39 GMT References: <2853@enea.se> <2400014@otter.hple.hp.com> <918@rlgvax.UUCP> <1859@faline.bellcore.com> <1988May2.212040.3274@utzoo.uucp> Reply-To: davidsen@crdos1.UUCP (bill davidsen) Organization: General Electric CRD, Schenectady, NY Lines: 34 In article <1988May2.212040.3274@utzoo.uucp> henry@utzoo.uucp (Henry Spencer) writes: | > >An interestingly small number, since it implies that a lot of the moaners | > >and whiners didn't bother making their complaints official. I suppose it | > >is too optimistic to hope that they will henceforth keep quiet... | > | > Perhaps they didn't care to pay $50 (or however much CBEMA was charging) | > for the latest standard... | | If they can't find $50 in their own pockets, or their own plus their friends' | pockets, or their organization's pockets, I really have to conclude that | they aren't that desperately concerned. For some reason I suspect that X3J11 Henry, I rarely disagree with you, but the version you can order always seems to be out of date. I would pay a fee for a current version, and an upgrade fee each time, if they would put the blasted info online so I can call a number (uucp or BBS) and get something current. Paying $50 for something worthless is really too costly, not only is there no positive value, but you wind up quoting things which are already changed/fixed. If I were going to make copies, I can make copies with a copy machine just as easily, so there is no reason to quote honesty as an argument. To postulate unofficial versions is dubious, too, since I can retypeset any one page now with a little effort, and make it look official. When I was on X3J11 the text was kept in [nt]roff format and could be accessed as soon as it was changed. I would trade the fancy typeset, bound, etc, old manual for a current version, even if I had to take it nroffed to a dot matrix printer. When I stopped going to meetings I wish I had kept observer status, just to get the mailings and stuff. -- bill davidsen (wedu@ge-crd.arpa) {uunet | philabs | seismo}!steinmetz!crdos1!davidsen "Stupidity, like virtue, is its own reward" -me