Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!nuchat!flatline!erict
From: erict@flatline.UUCP (eric townsend)
Newsgroups: news.admin,alt.sex
Subject: Newsgroup content and our ethics/morals/values (was: Re: Timely Noti
Message-ID: <604@flatline.UUCP>
Date: 1 May 88 14:41:51 GMT
References: <442@white.gcm> <3880@medusa.cs.purdue.edu> <974@unmvax.unm.edu> <4919@chinet.UUCP>
Organization: den of sinister exaggerators -- houston.montrose
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Keywords: This *does* belong in both groups.  Probably in misc.ethics too.


   THIS IS A REPOST.  SORRY.

I recieved some mail from Robert Granvin.  I feel that his comments to
me, and my replies are worthy of netdom.



The question is brought up of why rec.guns is acceptible while
soc.sex is not.

In email, rjg@sialis.mn.org (Robert J. Granvin) wrote to me:
>In article <586@flatline.UUCP>, erict@flatline.UUCP (eric townsend) writes:
>>> In article <3481@gryphon.CTS.COM> richard@gryphon.CTS.COM (Richard Sexton) writes:
>>> 	Yes.  Simple.  There is nothing wrong with rec.guns.

>>Once again, violence, death and murder are not obscene while sex is...

>Why must a gun immediately imply violence, death and murder?

It doesn't.  That was an off the cuff remark that was based on "our"
decisions of what the media (from tv to usenet) carry and do not
carry.  Breasts or genitals cannot be shown on tv, but at any time,
I may flip to a channel and watch a show where people try to kill
each other for various reasons.

>BTW: Most people interested in the rec.guns group are hunters, or
>people interested in firearms for marksmanship sport.  Odd that people
>will find this offensive, while they do not find the exact same
>reasonings behind archery offensive.

I see nothing wrong with rec.guns.  If I still had the $$$, I'd still
be collecting weapons.  I think it's nice that we (usenet) have a
whole newsgroup expressly devoted to howitzers and artillery pieces.
Now maybe we can start a rec.firearms to cover rifles and pistols. :-)
(In the service, we were taught to never call a rifle or pistol a gun.
Artillery are guns.  Other things are weapons. :-)


>>"I'd rather have my child watch a film of two people making love than of
>>two people trying to kill one another." -- John Lennon

>Agreed.

>Robert J. Granvin
>National Information Systems, Inc.
>rjg@sialis.mn.org
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