Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!att!osu-cis!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!mailrus!ames!pasteur!ucbvax!decwrl!sun!pitstop!sundc!seismo!uunet!mcvax!ukc!its63b!aipna!sean From: sean@aipna.ed.ac.uk (Sean Matthews) Newsgroups: comp.ai Subject: what is this thing called `free will' Message-ID: <38@aipna.ed.ac.uk> Date: 18 May 88 03:03:28 GMT Reply-To: sean@uk.ac.ed.aipna.UUCP (Sean Matthews) Organization: Dept. of AI, Edinburgh, UK Lines: 45 Arguments for `free will' from itrospection boil down to `I think I have free will because I think I have free will' which is not even worthy of the label `tautology'. The (contradictory?) arguements go: I experience what I believe to be `free will' all the time since I have yet to experience myself doing something In spite of my desiring to do the opposite, even though I am not subject to any coercion.[1] I have demonstrated `free will' since I wanted to drink Coca Cola, but instead drank Pepsi Cola (That I also wanted to prove I had free will is overlooked). People often seem to confuse an impulse to perversity for `free will'. There are two problems: 1. does anyone have the slightest idea of what `free will' looks like. 2. perfect introspection is a logical impossibility[2], so anyone who invokes it allows their `mind' the sort of logical transcendance that Thomas Aquinas explicitly denied his god. This seems to be arrogating rather a lot. Se\'an Matthews Dept. of Artificial Intelligence JANET:sean%sin@uk.ac.ed.aiva University of Edinburgh ARPA: sean%uk.ac.ed.aiva@nss.cs.ucl.ac.uk 80 South Bridge UUCP: ...!mcvax!ukc!aiva!sean Edinburgh, EH1 1HN, Scotland [1] I don't know enough about psychiatric medicine to say whether it would be possible for a schitzophrenic to have an experence superficially akin to this---two aware `minds' in one brain, only one of which is exercising control---but the possibility raises interesting questions which can be, and are, dealt with in other places. [2] if a `mind' x had perfect introspection, it would need to contain within itself a complete model of itself, as well as the structures which are used to model x and to reason about it, but these would need to be inside x and therefore would be in the model. This is just a version of the barber paradox. PS. This has all probably been said before, but I didn't read it; if it has, I apologise for wasting your time.