Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!mcvax!ukc!strath-cs!glasgow!gilbert From: gilbert@cs.glasgow.ac.uk (Gilbert Cockton) Newsgroups: comp.ai Subject: Re: Acting irrationally (was Re: Free Will & Self Awareness) Message-ID: <1192@crete.cs.glasgow.ac.uk> Date: 19 May 88 09:05:38 GMT References: <770@onion.cs.reading.ac.uk> <1177@bingvaxu.cc.binghamton.edu> <5499@venera.isi.edu> <180@proxftl.UUCP> Reply-To: gilbert@cs.glasgow.ac.uk (Gilbert Cockton) Organization: Comp Sci, Glasgow Univ, Scotland Lines: 33 In article <180@proxftl.UUCP> tomh@proxftl.UUCP (Tom Holroyd) writes: >Here's a simple rule: explicitly articulate everything, at least once. Sorry, I didn't quite get that :-) > >A truly reasoning being doesn't hesitate to ask, either, if something >hasn't been explicitly articulated, and it is necessary for continuing >discussion. Read Irvine Goffman's "The Presentation of Self in Everyday Life" and you'll find that we do not correspond to your "truly reasoning being". We let all sorts of ambiguities and incompleteness drop, indeed it's rude not to, as well as displaying a lack of empathy, insight, intuition and considerateness. Sometimes, you should ask, but certainly not always, unless your a natural language front-end, then I insist :-) This idealisation is riddled with assumptions about meaning which I leave your AI programs to divine :-) Needless to say, this approach to meaning results in infinite regresses and closures imposed by contingency rather than a mathematical closure n+1 n information = information where n is the number of clarifying exchanges between the tedious pedant (TP) and the unwilling lexicographer (UL). i.e there exists an n such that UL abuses TP, TP senses annoyance in UL, TP gives up, UL gives up, TP agrees to leave it until tomorrow, or ... TP and UL have a wee spot of social negotiation and agree on the meaning (i.e. UL hits TP really hard) -- Gilbert Cockton, Department of Computing Science, The University, Glasgow gilbert@uk.ac.glasgow.cs !ukc!glasgow!gilbert The proper object of the study of Mankind is Man, not machines