Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!lll-winken!lll-tis!ames!think!bloom-beacon!bu-cs!purdue!decwrl!ucbvax!UBVMS.BITNET!PSYDAVE From: PSYDAVE@UBVMS.BITNET (Dave Straitiff) Newsgroups: comp.os.vms Subject: DECUS deserves some credit! Message-ID: <8805150307.AA20539@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> Date: 7 May 88 18:05:00 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 56 I would like to turn the DECUS conversation around a bit. DECUS makes money, true. Where do you think that money goes? It goes back into services for DECUS members. DEC does not provide any direct financial support. They provide us with a staff and facilities. They also pay the symposium registration fees for DEC employees. Just like any of our employers pay ours. In general, I would be careful about throwing stones at DECUS. It is a volunteer organization that serves a great number of people. I have dedicated a great deal of my personal time to help DECUS run. I think all the people involved deserve a great deal of credit. An effective LUG is the rawest form of DECUS. It offers people in a geographic area, a chance to meet face to face. Effective is the key point here. To be effective, the LUG needs motivated leaders. If you don't like the way your LUG is run, then run for an office. Many facts are incorrect in the article against LUGs. First off, DEC has no say in who speaks at your meeting. It is in the LUG's best interest though to maintain relations with the local office. That support can be by offering a counterpart, hosting meetings, and doing mailings. On the tape issue. Those tapes are not cheap if you purchase them. LUGs have the right to distribute them to members. Local companies donate all the media for our library at the Western New York LUG. Our librarian mails the tapes in and they are returned with loads of USEFUL and FREE software. How much easier could it be? DECUS even pays the return postage. The newsletter promotion is not hurting anyone. They will not exist at all if people don't subscribe. I see the newsletter serving the same purpose as this bulletin board. I can't see any reason to not use this medium to promote them. The intentions are totally honorable. On a final note, DEC is the first to acknowledge that they are not the only game in town. DECUS is around because a lot of people own DEC computers, and would like meet with others to talk about them. DECUS can not be all things to all people. It serves its purpose well! What reason could anyone have to take shots at DECUS? David M. Straitiff Western New York LUG Chair North East Seminars Representative ========================================================================= David M. Straitiff Bitnet: PSYDAVE@UBVMS Speech Research Laboratory Phone: (716)689-8093 Department of Psychology State University of New York at Buffalo Buffalo, New York 14260 =========================================================================