Xref: utzoo comp.periphs:943 comp.sys.ibm.pc:15560 Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!lll-winken!lll-lcc!pyramid!octopus!pete From: pete@octopus.UUCP (Pete Holzmann) Newsgroups: comp.periphs,comp.sys.ibm.pc Subject: Re: RLL on standard disks (and a program to keep it working well). Summary: I've had good luck with ST251. ST4096 is modern; probably ok. Message-ID: <219@octopus.UUCP> Date: 15 May 88 03:24:28 GMT References: <10831@steinmetz.ge.com> Reply-To: pete@octopus.UUCP (Pete Holzmann) Distribution: na Organization: Octopus Enterprises, Cupertino CA Lines: 43 In article <10831@steinmetz.ge.com> davidsen@crdos1.UUCP (bill davidsen) writes: }I have a system which needs a bit more disk. One possibility would be to }use an RLL controller, the other to place a full height disk externally }to replace the half height currently in use. For controllers I would get }the Adaptec 2732 (1:1 RLL) or the WD1006 (1:1 tk buf MFM). Try Adaptec 2372? }The disks I have are ST4096 (80 MB formatted) and ST251 (42MB }formatted). I've used both the ST251 and the St251-1 for a while without trouble. Both the St251 and 4096 are recent designs using plated media. If it works well to begin with, I wouldn't expect any trouble. }I have heard all sorts of rumors about using normal disks with RLL, }ranging from "unreliable" to "melts the coating off the disk." Has ^^^^ could be, ^^^^^ *silly*!!! depending on drive/ctrlr. }someone already *tried* this who can give me some real info. The only }hard data I have is my local clone maker who tried this with the ST225 }(super slow 20MB) who reported "every f***ing one of them stopped }working after about two weeks." Sounds about right for the ST225, a cheapo drive if there ever was one. (But hey, they've sold a zillion! I can't knock success!) } bill davidsen (wedu@ge-crd.arpa) One last thought on using RLL: If you want to make SURE that you won't get in trouble with it, get a disk-format-renewer program. Disk Technician is one; SpinRite is the best I've seen, is cheap ($60?) and getting better. If you run SpinRite once a month, it will re-do your low level format without requiring a backup; this will eliminate any soft errors that have cropped up. A nice insurance policy to have around.... Pete -- OOO __| ___ Peter Holzmann, Octopus Enterprises OOOOOOO___/ _______ USPS: 19611 La Mar Court, Cupertino, CA 95014 OOOOO \___/ UUCP: {hpda,pyramid}!octopus!pete ___| \_____ Phone: 408/996-7746