Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!husc6!bbn!uwmcsd1!ig!agate!ucbvax!UDEL.EDU!Mills From: Mills@UDEL.EDU Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: Re: controlling IP "type of service" Message-ID: <8805141634.aa03069@Huey.UDEL.EDU> Date: 14 May 88 20:34:01 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 25 Vint, Verily in an FB(n) system dudes at higher priority levels can freeze out dudes at lower priority levels if the volume of traffic at the higher levels is sufficiently intense. There is now doubt that this occasionally occurs when the NSFNET Backbone is sore abused by certain 4.2bsd systems that have not upgraded to 4.3bsd with the Jacobson/Karels pollution controls (point made - I have not yet found a way to reliably identify 4.2bsd abusers and stamp their passports with priority zilch). While the freezees can shiver in the queues as the hotrods whiz by, they can't freeze for longer than their TTL, for most systems not over thirty seconds and for no systems longer than about four minutes. What usually happens is that, a packet below the eutectic can't live more than a few seconds before being preempted anyway. Such is live in the present 56-kbps world. Fancier schemes can readily be proposed to improve fairness with FB(n) systems, many of which were first proposed in the CTSS days when timesharing was losing its hyphenation. In context of six weeks the existing 56-kbps backbone is to live before being retired hy the new 1.5-Mbps backbone, there is small chance that these schemes will be implemented. There may be at least a month before the new backbone will have to face the same problems. Dave