Xref: utzoo comp.sources.d:2118 comp.binaries.ibm.pc.d:251 Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!seismo!sundc!pitstop!sun!decwrl!ucbvax!pasteur!ames!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!husc6!panda!teddy!jpn From: jpn@teddy.UUCP (John P. Nelson) Newsgroups: comp.sources.d,comp.binaries.ibm.pc.d Subject: Re: Standard for file transmission Message-ID: <4776@teddy.UUCP> Date: 16 May 88 14:06:50 GMT References: <292@cullsj.UUCP> <696@fig.bbn.com> <2932@cognos.UUCP> <3055@encore.UUCP> Reply-To: jpn@teddy.UUCP (John P. Nelson) Organization: GenRad, Inc., Concord, Mass. Lines: 28 >The point is that an article which contains binary thats compressed and then >uuencode/btoa/your_favorite'd will lower the compression ration for the batch >that contains it. The overall size of the batch will be smaller if the >included binary was just uuencoded, etc. If this was TRUE, it would be a good argument. It is NOT true. Most binary files that are compressed, uuencoded, then compressed again are SMALLER than binary files that are simply uuencoded, then compressed. I have yet to see anyone post results that refute this. A few people have pointed out counter-examples: These usually involve compressing an ARC file (or other binary file with very little compressability in the first place). The few cases I have seen where using ARC (which will NOT try to compress a file that is uncompressable), followed by uuencode, followed by compress generates a larger file than uuencode/compress alone, the file lengths were within 1% of each other. If someone has seen different results, I would be interested in seeing them. I already KNOW that compressing ASCII files (source or text) then uuencoding is a bad idea: I am interested in results from BINARY FILES only! I think we should SETTLE this issue once and for all! -- john nelson UUCP: {decvax,mit-eddie}!genrad!teddy!jpn ARPA (sort of): talcott.harvard.edu!panda!teddy!jpn