Xref: utzoo comp.sources.d:2153 news.admin:2265 Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!husc6!cmcl2!nrl-cmf!ames!amdahl!pacbell!att!alberta!ubc-cs!van-bc!sl From: sl@van-bc.UUCP (pri=-10 Stuart Lynne) Newsgroups: comp.sources.d,news.admin Subject: Re: binaries on the net Message-ID: <1772@van-bc.UUCP> Date: 20 May 88 22:57:30 GMT References: <1574@looking.UUCP> <22099@bu-cs.BU.EDU> <392@pan.UUCP> <508@splut.UUCP> <4577@hoptoad.uucp> <4491@dasys1.UUCP> Reply-To: sl@van-bc.UUCP (pri=-10 Stuart Lynne) Organization: Public Access Network, Vancouver, BC. Lines: 40 In article <4491@dasys1.UUCP> manes@dasys1.UUCP (Steve Manes) writes: >In article <4577@hoptoad.uucp> gnu@hoptoad.uucp (John Gilmore) writes: >>What good is the last 30 years of progress in software engineering if >>we never get the sources? > >It's always seemed a bit curious to me that folks who balk the loudest at >At the moment, Shareware authors represent about the only progress in >certain software areas, notably communications and file archiving tools, so >>Binaries don't >>evolve; when they stop working, they go extinct. Many of the people on I think it's time to just switch the binaries over to a separate distribution. There is obviously both a great need for them, both as freebies and shareware, but it is equally obvious that a large number sites just don't want to carry them because a) they are binary not source; b) they tend to be very large and c) they tend to be available elsewhere. Now we went through this type of discussion last year and the end result was the alt groups. So how about: alt.pc.binaries alt.shareware As per usual the stuff would be carried by uunet and be available fairly easily to most sites *IF* they want it. I would venture to say that some other noisy groups might be appropriate for moving to alt as well. We have to do something to help cut back the acceleration in the rate of growth. Personally I don't subscribe to *all* of the alt groups but do maintain a link with uunet to get the ones I do want (or are wanted by someone I feed). I probably would subscribe to alt.pc.binaries. -- {ihnp4!alberta!ubc-vision,uunet}!van-bc!Stuart.Lynne Vancouver,BC,604-937-7532