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From: mrr@amanpt1.zone1.com (Mark Rinfret)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga
Subject: Mac OS / Amiga OS (was How 'Bout HyperCard!)
Summary: The Amiga is not alone...
Message-ID: <467@amanpt1.zone1.com>
Date: 22 May 88 13:51:57 GMT
References: <8805170742.AA28361@cory.Berkeley.EDU> <4710@watdcsu.waterloo.edu>
Organization: Aquidneck Management Associates
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In article <4710@watdcsu.waterloo.edu>, debate2@watdcsu.waterloo.edu (David Oh) writes:
. In article <8805170742.AA28361@cory.Berkeley.EDU> dillon@CORY.BERKELEY.EDU (Matt Dillon) writes:
. >
. 
. >>the Mac software.  The Mac os is as far above the Amiga in richness and  
. >>robustness as the Amiga os is above the Atari ST os.  Of coarse I'm not
. >>talking about multi-taking here but the Mac also has good solutions for 
. >>multi-taking.  Even the Atari ST can do reasonable mutli-tasking.  Multi-
. >
. >	Again, I say B.S.
. >
. 
. Hey, there are acutally computers better than the Amiga you know :-)  The
                 ^^^^^^^^ Sounds like a good name for a calculator :-)
. Mac OS, which I personally haven't seen, could be better.  I've seen the
. Mac Interface (similar to WB - what's it called?) and it looks very clean
. and easy to use.  I've used Mac's before, and I Love the Mac II's.  (I
. also love 16 millions colours!)  The problem with the Amiga is that the
. OS is a bit "messy" for lack of a better term and too complicated.. If you
. don't make your windows right, and forget one of the hundreds of flags, 
  Are we exaggerating just a bit here?                 ^^^^^^^^
. you get gadgets that flicker, lock of the computer, and generally, mess
. everything up.  Sure, it can be bad code but has this every happened to
. you?  You lock up the IntuiMessages comming from a program, so you can't
. type or move the mouse, but the tasks are still running?  Even good code
. can do this when you are multitasking.  ...more omitted...
  HuH?

Apparently, you've never programmed a Mac.  You can get as "creative" 
(fireworks graphics, ivisible/inaccessible windows, inescapable programs) on
a Mac as you can on an Amiga and its OS is every bit as complicated yet
less capable.  I program Mac SE's and Mac II's at work.  I've only really
gotten serious about it in the last couple of months and let me tell you,
there's a helluva learning curve - every bit as complicated as the Amiga.
The Mac does seem to lean more toward getting things done through function and
procedure calls, while the Amiga prefers preset data structures.  
However, Intuition does a LOT more for you (except, of course, the text edit
features supplied by the Mac, which are excellent).  Also, try using the
Mac's answer to multitasking, MultiFinder, on a 1 meg SE some time.  Ha!
The Amiga gives you a CHOICE of user interfaces - WorkBench or CLI.  Try
popping a CLI on a Mac sometime.  Also, the WorkBench isn't as bad as you 
make it sound.  If you're comparing a floppy-based Amiga system to a Mac
SE or II with hard disk, of course the Mac is a winner.   

All of the above should not be interpreted as a slam against the Mac, either.
I believe the Mac family is an excellent product line with an outstanding
software selection.  You only see the finished products - not their 
development cycle.  Don't be so hard on the Amiga, however.  All of this
high powered graphics oriented interfacing doesn't come free to the
programmer on ANY system, from what I've seen.

...other stuff omitted...
.  
. :::> Dave        uucp:   debate2@watdcsu.waterloo.edu
.                  Plink:  dave*oh
.  
. Please, no hate mail. :-)
  Never.
. 

Mark

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