Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!husc6!bloom-beacon!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!mandrill!neoucom!wtm From: wtm@neoucom.UUCP (Bill Mayhew) Newsgroups: comp.sys.att Subject: Re: AT&T WGS 6386 Keywords: Reviews Message-ID: <1192@neoucom.UUCP> Date: 23 May 88 13:40:33 GMT References: <332@pyuxf.UUCP> <1905@mtuxo.UUCP> Organization: Northeastern Ohio Universities College of Medicine Lines: 61 I did some of the testing in the aforementioned Unix Word article. I would attribute much of the 6386's good showing to the fact that AT&T's Unix and all its utilities are apparently '386 native code, while much of SCO's Xenix is still '86 (not even '286) code. The Olivetti herritage of the 386WGS still is quite strong, and it still looks very much like the classic 6300 and 6300plus. The peripherals were high quality. The disk was a Micropolis and the tape unit was a Wangtec. The unit we have just has the standard ATT400 / CGA compatible video card, reworked to run in a standard bus slot, rather than the monstrositiy in the 6300. I've heard that a few people have had some bugs with using EGA cards. The Micropolis drive was large enough that it didn't mount in the standard width WGS case; it was in a sidecar unit bolted to the right hand side of the machine. At the time I looked the WGS over, it was running a beta copy of Unix, but it was quite stable and I presume it was for all intents and purposes what shipped as the official release. If I had to make a purchasing desicion based on the need to run Unix, I'd be very temped to choose the WGS above the IBM model 80 because the quailty of AT&T's Unix seems to be superior to the Unixes that are available for the model 80. Of course, IBM is saying that they have intent to give Unix its due, but then IBM has been saying that for some time and it is still a largely unfuilled promise. I think the quality of construction in the IBM model 80 is probably superior (as is evidenced by the fact that IBM will write a carry in service contract for $20/month), but AT&T's accesibility via the hotline and usenet is superior, so the WGS is still a better choice in my book. John did the benchmarks on the WGS, so don't write me for the gory detials. I just commented mainly on the WGS's contruction, etc and ran the comparisons on the mod 80. Oh yes, I just remembered, the model 80 suffers from a bug in the way the 80387 is handled in protected mode. If you get a floating point exception while the machine is doing a DMA tranfer, the mahcine will crash. I've tried to aggrivate the bug to occur on the model 80 here, but it hasn't done it for me. In a call about something else, one of the technical support people at SCO mentioned it to me. This is an Intel bug, and is not particular to IBM. Fortunately some fairly simple glue logic between the '386 and '387 fixes the problem. One would presume that since the '387 is a requisite condition for running AT&T's Unix on the WGS, that AT&T designed in the necessary glue logic at the outset (or else they don't do DMA :-)). If good floating point performance is important (i.e. you want to use the 387), the above is a definite plus in the AT&T column. I also looked at the tower version of the AT&T '386. That is one heck of a machine. It's built like a tank. There are 12 slots and a huge power supply. It's an fairly expensive unit, but has very close to minicomputer performance. The advantage is that you can easily drop in multiport serial boards and ethernet cards, etc from a number of companies. The choices for the microchannel architecture are much more limited. --Bill wtm@neoucom.UUCP