Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!bellcore!faline!thumper!ulysses!andante!princeton!udel!gatech!purdue!decwrl!decvax!mandrill!neoucom!wtm From: wtm@neoucom.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc Subject: Re: Seagate ST225 D.O.A. Summary: It croaks if the screws are too tight Message-ID: <1167@neoucom.UUCP> Date: 12 May 88 18:34:38 GMT References: <2845@phoenix.Princeton.EDU> <637@mccc.UUCP> <5746@pyr.gatech.EDU> Organization: Northeastern Ohio Universities College of Medicine Lines: 36 Posted: Thu May 12 14:34:38 1988 The only unusual failure mode for Seagate ST-225 drives that I am aware of is that if a reall gorilla installs the drive and torques the mounting screws (or uses screws that are too long), that this places stress on the chassis. The stressed chassis causes errors in the positioner (which is apparently an open loop design, anybody know for sure?). Fortunately, the problem is recoverable by backing off the mounting screws until they are not butting up agaist the chassis and are not unduly tight. As per the previous discussion, ST-225s should not be used with RLL controllers -- though rumor has it that recent ST-225s are really the same as the RLL certified ST-238 model; the ST-238 undergoing more rigorous testing before shipping. For experimental purposes, I have formatted an ST-225 to 32 megs as an RLL drive and then reformatted with another controller and haven't had any problems. I think the drives that might have problems are ones like miniscribes that use a dedicated servo platter. I also tried formatting a 45 meg Rodime 3-1/2 inch drive that is supposed to be MFM up to 62 meg RLL (the limit of my controller) and then switched it back to MFM without incident. The Rodime drive has been perking away back as MFM 24 hrs/day for several months in this computer since I tried the RLL experiment on it. I've been using a Seagate ST-238 at home since Jan. 21, 1987 with and OMTI 5527 controller. The drive arrived with zero errors, and has been in use several hours a day since without any incidents. For references, check out the April '88 issue of Mini Micro Systems magazine. The entire issue is full of nice articles on RLL, ESDI, SCSI, testabilty of drives, etc. Very much recommended reading. --Bill