Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!husc6!bloom-beacon!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!mandrill!neoucom!wtm From: wtm@neoucom.UUCP (Bill Mayhew) Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc Subject: Re: Why clone the PS/2? Summary: PS/2 hardware is better; why not clone it? Message-ID: <1180@neoucom.UUCP> Date: 16 May 88 13:14:12 GMT References: <8685@eleazar.Dartmouth.EDU> <5823@well.UUCP> <10600@steinmetz.ge.com> <1642@looking.UUCP> Organization: Northeastern Ohio Universities College of Medicine Lines: 59 I felt that there really wasn't much reason to clone the PS/2s until we got an IBM PS/2 model 80 in our testing lab. We also have a Compaq 386. I was quite pleasantly surprised by the relative quality construction of the model 80 compared to the other IBM branded PCs. I never did like the original PCs and XTs. Even the new PS/2 30 and 50s seem like consumer grade fare. I would be reluctant to purchase a model 50 or 60 now that IBM has leaked there intent to realease P-9 and 80386 based machines in the latter part of 1988 and in 1989. There are lots of Asian imports that are better deals than the models 25 and 30, unless one needs to have VGA graphics. The microchannel bus really is a significant technical advancement over the orignal PC bus and should provide 5 to 10 years of expansion potential. Most significant is the inate ability to handle distributed processors. The bus is also electrically superior to the PC bus and should make it easier for vendors to design high performance peripheral devices. One qualitative test in our standard battery of trails and tribulations is to see if a 49 MHz cordless phone can be operated in the vicintiy of a given machine. The model 80 is the only machine that we've tested that shows virtually no RF leakage. We were even able to place the phone base unit directly on the cabinet of the model 80. Western Digital's chipset looks like it will be nice. One advantage is that WD's DMA channels are fully asynchonous and can operate up to full system clock speed. IBM's current microchannel implemtation according to Mini Microsystems has a DMA speed limit of 10 MHz, thus in the model 80, DMA occurs at 1/2 the system clock (8 MHz or 10 MHz for the newer model 80). Even more desirable than the microchannel (for the moment) is the manufacturing trend that IBM has set with the new machines. The highly modular design makes servicing a snap, and will ultimately lower costs in that department. Since one of the things I do here is fix machines, I like this. ... quite a contrast to Compaq and AT&T which appear to have been designed to be difficult to service :-). It is also much easier for the end user to add feature cards to the microchannel because the physical construction of the microchannel doesn't require special tools (Phillips screwdriver not needed) to install the cards. Vendors can also supply auto-install disks that will setup the cards (presumably) painlessly .. but we've alredy seen the fiasco with addressing 3rd party add-in memory. So much for that idea! I agree that there isn't much reason for buying into the microchannel at the moment (excep, perhaps for the model 80), but the quality of the design makes it likely to eventaully catch on, even if vendors have to pay tribute and tax to IBM to sell it. Since there is a big demand for comodity-priced low end PCs, I believe that the original PC bus will continue to live on in a parallel universe for quite some time to come. Just as one can still buy regular typewriters eventhough word processors seem to be everywhere. --Bill wtm@neoucom.UUCP