Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!husc6!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!bloom-beacon!oberon!sdcrdcf!csun!polyslo!dorourke From: dorourke@polyslo.UUCP (David M. O'Rourke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.programmer Subject: Re: Getting started in Mac programming... Message-ID: <2729@polyslo.UUCP> Date: 19 May 88 04:05:44 GMT References: <1911@rayssdb.ray.com> <2586@polyslo.UUCP> <321@piring.cwi.nl> Reply-To: dorourke@polyslo.UUCP (David O'Rourke) Organization: Cal Poly State University -- San Luis Obispo Lines: 43 In article <321@piring.cwi.nl> guido@cwi.nl (Guido van Rossum) writes: >I'd like to make a comparison between LightspeedC (LSC) and MPW. Continues on with an EXCELLENT comparison of LSC vs. MPW. One of the best I've seen, listed some things I've never seen before. >As far as I know, neither system has much debugging support beyonde >generating symbols for Macsbug. I think one of the RUMORED features of MPW 3.0 will be souce level debugging. The one thing Mr. van Rossum leaves out is the fact that MPW supports more than just C, although C is the choice of many programmers there are other languages, and MPW supports most of them. Also I've found MPW to be quite useable on a 2 meg machine with a 20meg harddisk. And you can't deny the power of it's Unix style shell and the ability to add tools to the shell just like in Unix. Although LSC is fast, MPW is complete. I have also heard rumors that many of the Macintosh compiler companies are planning versions of there compilers to run under MPW, so you not only have a choice of languages you *MIGHT* soon have a choice of who's compiler you can use. This has already happend in the Modula Market, so why not Pascal, C, ect.. Both enviroments are very good, but I've gotten used to MPW and now I find it difficult to use anything else, what no shell scripts? Where are my shell variables, where are the user defined menus, no make facility, my god are we working in the stone ages here? David M. O'Rourke +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ | dorourke@polyslo | Disclaimer: All opinions in this message are mine, but | | | if you like them they can be yours too. | | | Besides I'm just a student so what do I | | | know! | |-----------------------------------------------------------------------------| | When you have to place a disclaimer in your mail you know it's a sign | | that there are TOO many Lawyer's. | +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++