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From: benoni@ssc-vax.UUCP (Charles L Ditzel)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: Splinter Unix?
Message-ID: <1938@ssc-vax.UUCP>
Date: 21 May 88 06:11:11 GMT
References: <1228@ssc.UUCP>
Organization: Boeing Aerospace Corp., Seattle WA
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in article <1228@ssc.UUCP>, fyl@ssc.UUCP (Phil Hughes) says:
> In article <556@n8emr.UUCP>, lwv@n8emr.UUCP (Larry W. Virden) writes:
> 
> Sigh was my first comment too.  Then I talked to a person at Apollo and
> at least see why it is happening.  (This is basically info that will be
As if Apollo is an unbiased entity.  Hey, these are the guys that are all
ways telling me I should be using Aegis...;-(

> is done, they will release the standard to the world.  From a marketing
> point of view, AT&T and Sun will have a working product to sell and all
> the rest of the industry running around attempting to get caught up.
For sometime now Apollo has been in excess of 8 to 18 months behind Sun
with regards to Unix...(in my opinion ... i use both machines) ... they
still as of today (SR9.7) have a discombobulated version of Unix...that's
a *long* time to show no particular proficiency in porting Unix to their
machine....
  
> The alternative, called Open Software Foundation involves a whole bunch of
> vendors (about 9 so far) and they are doing joint development on the
Most of them are a predictable lot of "closed systems" people...the last
people I would trust.
> standard and the code.  The best thing that could happen is that AT&T and
> Sun could say, "Ok, you win" and join in.

I think that would be the *worst* thing that could happen for Unix.  
Besides why should they??????  We have been living with System V and
Berkeley for some time... here is another schism....big deal....i can't 
imagine the Open Software Foundation coming up with anything better
than what we already have....I like what I am seeing going into Sys 5 Rel 4..
X11/NeWS, NFS,RFS, a fair amount of Berkeley, Open Look user interface,...

What does the Open Software Foundation have to offer...no NeWS, i didn't see
NFS or RFS on their list, all they had was DECwindows, NCS, X11 ... not a wit
about Sun/AT&T stuff ....

Open Software Foundation = Open Software Fraud

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Naturally My Opinions are my own.