Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!peregrine!ccicpg!felix!zemon From: avolio@decuac.dec.com (Frederick M. Avolio) Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix Subject: Snake Oil Message-ID: <35760@felix.UUCP> Date: 16 May 88 19:17:25 GMT Sender: zemon@felix.UUCP Reply-To: avolio@decuac.dec.com (Frederick M. Avolio) Organization: DEC Software Services Lines: 38 Approved: zemon@felix.UUCP Reply-Path: Someone in Ultrix Product Management asked me to submit this for him. The rest of this is the submission. Fred ----- What Ken Olsen REALLY said in the article was that the way that people market UNIX based systems as the cure-all for everything was like snake-oil salesmen selling "cure-alls" to people who really needed a doctor. Any one who has been around most current versions of UNIX operating systems knows that at this stage in its development the UNIX OS lacks things that are necessary in various markets. It is not to say that UNIX operating systems will never have them, but that the product as a commercial operating system has to mature. Digital has always been active on standards committees, and in implementing these standards as they evolve. Sometimes Digital has needed a solution before the standard is ready, therefore we invent an "internal standard" until the formal standard is of product quality. Sometimes we use defacto standards as a place holder until better systems emerge. Digital has put as much (or more) effort into promoting the POSIX standard as anyone. This would be an odd thing if our chief officer was "against standards". As to Digital supporting ULTRIX, I recently went to an internal meeting of top-level Digital Executives where the top three speakers (Ken Olsen, and two senior V.P.s) said in NO UNCERTAIN TERMS that we have: One Company, One Architecture and TWO Operating Systems VMS and ULTRIX. These operating systems will be sold on an EQUAL basis (Ken's OWN WORDS to these top-level Digital executives). Yes, it is a large company, and yes, there are still pockets of resistance. In today's Digital, however, you [meaning Digital employees] had better keep those thoughts of resistance to yourself. Jon Hall ULTRIX Worksystems Product Management