Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!pdn!reggie From: reggie@pdn.UUCP (George W. Leach) Newsgroups: comp.unix.wizards Subject: Re: Open Software Foundation Keywords: osf Message-ID: <3166@pdn.UUCP> Date: 18 May 88 16:10:41 GMT References: <5412@bloom-beacon.MIT.EDU> Reply-To: reggie@pdn.UUCP (George W. Leach) Organization: Paradyne Corporation, Largo FL Lines: 54 In article <5412@bloom-beacon.MIT.EDU> wesommer@athena.mit.edu (William Sommerfeld) writes: >... Apollo, Groupe Bull, Digital Equipment, Hewlett-Packard, IBM, >Nixdorf, Siemens ... This group is a very predictable lot ! Most of them never wanted to offer UNIX in the first place. They were forced into it by customer demand. > NEW FOUNDATION TO ADVANCE SOFTWARE STANDARDS, ^^^^^^^ > DEVELOP AND PROVIDE OPEN SOFTWARE ENVIRONMENT More like they want to reimplement the wheel and call it something else because they don't want to follow AT&T and Sun's lead. >NEW YORK, N.Y., May 17, 1988---Seven leading computer companies today >announced an international foundation to develop and provide a >completely open software environment to make it easier for customers >to use computers and software from many vendors. Huh? How does creating an alternative standard help do that? Look at some of the areas of "standardization", like graphics standards, pick one. AT&T and Sun are taking a step that should have been taken years ago. It is exactly what the marketplace needs. And who better to do it than those who drive the development of the two main strains? I don't think we want this done by a committee. On the other hand one can see the Hamilton Group's problem with this. They do not want to have to play catch up all the time. But in reality, isn't that what they are doing anyway? None of those companies has the ability to effect changes to System V or SunOS (BSD) at the current time. Why should Sun and AT&T allow them to in the future? There are too many standardization groups out there anyway. Sun and AT&T are *doing* something about the problem right now. Look at how long the ANSI C effort is taking and that is just one group. All of the UNIX-related standardization groups will have to get together sometime and converge on a single standard. BTW: Some of the latest headlines in the trade rags indicate that end users are not happy about this group spliting off and developing yet another OS. -- George W. Leach Paradyne Corporation ..!uunet!pdn!reggie Mail stop LF-207 Phone: (813) 530-2376 P.O. Box 2826 Largo, FL 34649-2826