Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!lll-winken!lll-tis!ames!pasteur!ucbvax!decwrl!labrea!denali!karish From: karish@denali.stanford.edu (Chuck Karish) Newsgroups: comp.unix.wizards Subject: Re: Open Software Foundation Summary: Let 'em compete. Keywords: osf Message-ID: <21402@labrea.STANFORD.EDU> Date: 19 May 88 03:02:10 GMT References: <5412@bloom-beacon.MIT.EDU> <3166@pdn.UUCP> Sender: news@labrea.STANFORD.EDU Reply-To: karish@denali.stanford.edu (Chuck Karish) Organization: Mindcraft, Inc. Lines: 43 In the early '70s, I worked in a small machine shop. It was a job shop, specializing in abrasive machining: grinding, lapping, and honing metals and ceramics to close tolerances. Most of the customers were other machine shops that subcontracted work to us; they'd send in semi-finished parts, and we'd grind a particular dimension to size and ship the parts back. In early 1972, the owners of the shop decided to expand their business by opening, as a separate operation, a conventional machine shop. The abrasive machining shop immediately began to lose business. Shops that had previously been customers stopped sending in jobs, because they were afraid that if my employer found out what jobs they were doing, he would try to bid on the whole job, instead of just the abrasive machining part. The conventional machine shop was closed after about six months. AT&T and Sun are now in a position where their competitors can't afford to cooperate with them. They're on record with the policy that there will be no distribution of source to other vendors until the whole operating system (System 5.5 or System 6 or whatever they call it) is finished and official. This means that Sun and AT&T will have many months to polish the implementations for their own machines before any of their competitors see a single line of new code. The stakes in the Unix game are pretty high now. The companies that are forming the OSF are doing so because they can't allow a competitor to dictate the rules of the game, and give itself a special advantage, when there are multi-billion-dollar contracts at stake. I'm not worried that we'll see a new Balkanization of the Unix community. POSIX and the FIPS are explicit enough to ensure that standardization of Unix implementations will continue. Remember, too, that IBM and DEC now have large staffs of engineers who are Unix partisans, who share the concerns of the Unix community at large. We may soon see some serious competition between Unix vendors on the basis of the quality of their implementations, rather than of who has more features. I'm looking forward to it. (I speak only for myself.) Chuck Karish ARPA: karish@denali.stanford.edu BITNET: karish%denali@forsythe.stanford.edu UUCP: {decvax,hplabs!hpda}!mindcrf!karish USPS: 1825 California St. #5 Mountain View, CA 94041