Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!lll-winken!lll-tis!ames!pacbell!att!alberta!ubc-cs!van-bc!rthurlow From: rthurlow@van-bc.UUCP (Rob Thurlow) Newsgroups: comp.unix.wizards Subject: Re: Ksh use (was Re: Should ``csh'' be part of ...) Keywords: csh==Berkeley shell, should it be in System V or not? Message-ID: <1771@van-bc.UUCP> Date: 19 May 88 02:12:24 GMT References: <2599@usceast.UUCP> <2601@usceast.UUCP> <4095@mtgzz.UUCP> <2199@quacky.mips.COM> Reply-To: rthurlow@van-bc.UUCP (Rob Thurlow) Organization: Public Access Network, Vancouver, BC. Lines: 43 I want to bitch about being with a not-huge company. The cost of $2000 for source is hard to justify for a product I believe to be great but have not seen. We have four different System V boxes; you'd think one of the vendors would give out 'ksh' as a freebie. Since I'm dreaming, why can't it be AT&T, who doesn't even give us 'csh' for some reason? Come on guys, this IS 1988; can't I get a computer to remember what I typed for me? Why do they even ship the 3B2 V.2 without a shell which can do history? INFO help_me() { Which reminds me - anyone got a line on where we can buy a binary of 'ksh' for the AT&T 3B2 running System V Release 2? I heard that this was available. That we might be able to buy. } Two other points - In article <2199@quacky.mips.COM> dce@mips.COM (David Elliott) writes: > Does ksh have anything like {}? (In case you don't know, "-r1.{2,4}" > expands to "-r1.2 -r1.4".) NB - this happens regardless of whether any files exist with names like this. There's lots of ways to generate names of files in sh & csh, but not enough to just manufacture arbitrary patterns, in my opinion; this feature bucks that trend. >Of course, I'm not completely insane, since I often go into sh to run >loops, and I write on sh scripts, never csh scripts. Agreed. Only lunatics *prefer* 'csh' for scripts. I just want a Bourne shell with shell functions and history. Does that exist? :-) Disclaimer: My company does not necessarily share my views. But they don't have USENET, so you won't find their name in this message anyway. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "There was something fishy about the butler. I think he was a Pisces, | probably working for scale." - Nick Danger | uunet-----\ | Robert Thurlow !van-bc!rthurlow | ubc-cs----/ | ------------------------------------------------------------------------