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From: dick@slvblc.UUCP (Dick Flanagan)
Newsgroups: news.admin,comp.binaries.ibm.pc.d
Subject: Re: 417K waste of money postings (was: Re: PICNIX V3)
Summary: Hrrumph!
Message-ID: <1777@slvblc.UUCP>
Date: 12 May 88 18:20:26 GMT
References: <1559@slvblc.UUCP> <111@pigs.UUCP>
Reply-To: slvblc!dick@ucscc.UCSC.EDU (Dick Flanagan)
Organization: SLV Systems Group, Ben Lomond, California
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In article <111@pigs.UUCP> haugj@pigs.UUCP (John F. Haugh II) writes:
> i actually have several complaints with picnix being distributed on
> the net.

        I am responding to this because I am the poster of
        PICNIX V3.

> first, picnix is a shareware product which the author is going to,
> attempt at least, make money from.  as such, this posting
> belonged in biz.binaries.whatever.  the source for picnix is
> available, therefore if anything were to be distributed it should
> be the sources, except that picnix is shareware and the author is greedy.

        Let's see.  At $15 for 30 utilities, that works out to
        fifty-cents each.  Yup, he's greedy, all right!

> secondly, we know what picnix is and another version has already
> been posted to usenet recently.

        The recent posting (four months ago) was of PICNIC V2
        and that was already more than a year old when it was
        posted.  PICNIX V3 has been significantly polished and
        improved since V2.  (I am not the author, by the way.)

>                                  i in fact run it on the compaqs here
> at work.

        I see your standards didn't prevent you from benefiting
        from that previous posting.  Let me guess.  You registered
        them all, didn't you?

>           why should my upstream feed be expected to transmit that
> thing to me if they aren't using it, considering i can pick it up
> from my local archive site?

        Just how are they supposed to know what you do and
        don't want?

> thirdly, the cost of transmitting this product is once again being
> borne by the net without their consent, per se.  comp.binaries.ibm.pc
> was agreed upon as a moderated group.  for monies to be spent on a
> whim by someone not the moderator is unfair and unjust.

        comp.binaries.ibm.pc was NOT moderated at the time of
        the posting.  The moderation control messages arrive
        two days later.

> fourthly, the cost of acquiring picnix from a public access site is
> minimal.  the transmission costs for this package are approximately
> $4.00 at 2400bps, and right at $9.00 for 1200bps (figures based on
> connection statistics at rpp386)  neither of those amounts are too
> much to expect an individual to pay.

        You appear to be arguing for the dissolution of c.b.i.p.
        It sounds like a more reasonable solution for all of us
        would be for you to simply unsubscribe.

> fifth, the posters in comp.binaries.ibm.pc don't seem to have the
> connectivity to be providing useful services to the net.

        Say what?

>                                                           rahul
> dhesi, the moderator of c.b.i.p, has provided useful services to the
> net, in the form of zoo, and would seem to be a responsible person,
> worthy of our trust.  who is dick flagan[sic]?

        No argument regarding Rahul's contributions, but, with
        any due respect, what is _your_ price of admission?  Is
        there some rite of initiation you exact from potential
        posters?

        (And if you're going to flame me, at least spell my
        name correctly!)
        
>                                             and did anyone notice
> that the site which transmitted the code was a uupc site?

        Oh, dear me, yes.  How silly of me to use a PC to com-
        municate with a newsgroup about PC's.  Next time I'll
        consider using one of the Suns to keep the elitests
        happy (or is a mere workstation still not good enough?).

>                                                            are we
> really going to let pc-clone users spend all of the net's money and
> provide nothing in return?

        Answering questions, responding to requests, contributing
        to discussions, posting sources and binaries of wide
        interest, these have been my attempts to repay the net
        for all I have received from it.  What must I do, John,
        to satisfy YOU?  On second thought, ask me if I care!

        Sheesh!

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