Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!bellcore!faline!thumper!ulysses!andante!princeton!udel!rochester!cornell!oravax!john From: john@oravax.UUCP Newsgroups: rec.birds Subject: Re: Nesting Bluebirds - box location Summary: box height bluebirds predation hosp Message-ID: <249@oravax.UUCP> Date: 19 May 88 19:02:06 GMT References: <4719@ihlpf.ATT.COM> <246@oravax.UUCP> <4769@ihlpf.ATT.COM> Organization: Odyssey Research Ass., Ithaca NY Lines: 21 Posted: Thu May 19 15:02:06 1988 Jim cited his bluebird box locations and asked if a lower than five foot mounting would deter house sparrows. Bluebirds prefer a box in an as open location as possible. The height of the cavity opening should be around four feet. This tends to deter some other cavity nesting competition. If you're in Black snake country, you should also use a predator guard. I don't think your five foot box height is excessive but would certainly try moving the box a bit lower and discoutage HOSP nesting attempts by cleaning out the box whenever they start building. We had a very successful trail in Maryland (over 400 boxes) and tried all sorts of combinations. Where a HOSP population abounded we had no choice but to discourage their building. Here in New York, I'm running into a more frustrating problem as we have a small bluebird population and large house wren population. To date, two nesting attempts have suffered wren predation ( they enter the box and destroy the eggs). Although we can thwart wren nesting attempts by removing the sticks, I know of no solution to the egg predation as the wren is protected. Sorry we can't solve your problem. Try the lower box and sparrow nest removal. Let me know how you make out. An informative book on blubirds was written by Larry Zeleny a few years ago; believe it's called THE BLUEBIRD.