Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!att!pacbell!ames!pasteur!ucbvax!decwrl!sun!pitstop!sundc!seismo!uunet!mcvax!ukc!strath-cs!glasgow!gilbert From: gilbert@cs.glasgow.ac.uk (Gilbert Cockton) Newsgroups: comp.ai Subject: Re: Free Will-Randomness and Question-Structure Message-ID: <1214@crete.cs.glasgow.ac.uk> Date: 23 May 88 09:02:41 GMT References: <22533@teknowledge-vaxc.ARPA> <194@proxftl.UUCP> Reply-To: gilbert@cs.glasgow.ac.uk (Gilbert Cockton) Distribution: comp.ai Organization: Comp Sci, Glasgow Univ, Scotland Lines: 18 In article <194@proxftl.UUCP> bill@proxftl.UUCP (T. William Wells) writes: >(N.B. The mathematician's "true" is not the same thing as the > epistemologist's "true". Which epistemologist? The reality and truth of mathematical objects has been a major concern in many branches of philosophy. Many would see mathematics, when it succeeds in formalising proof, as one form of truth. Perhaps consistency is a better word, and we should reserve truth for the real thing :-) This of course would make AI programs true models by correspondence, rather than internal elegance. Verification of these models is an important issue that I'm sure our mathematical idealists are pursuing with great vigour to the neglect of all else :-) -- Gilbert Cockton, Department of Computing Science, The University, Glasgow gilbert@uk.ac.glasgow.cs !ukc!glasgow!gilbert The proper object of the study of humanity is humans, not machines