Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!att!osu-cis!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!mailrus!ames!pasteur!ucbvax!lynx.northeastern.EDU!tmetro From: tmetro@lynx.northeastern.EDU Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple Subject: Kermit Message-ID: Date: 27 May 88 05:00:19 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 60 Donald C. Snow writes: > 1. The file ker383.1 contains the directions "include UUCP headers". It also > says "cut here" before the UUCP headers. Which is right? Either should work. As far as I can figure the creator the the Kermit EXEC files came up with a way that the files could be downloaded and EXECuted without having to edit the files to remove the UUCP (or whatever) headers. When you type EXEC KER383.1,R25 the R parameter is the key to the trick. This is normally used to specify which Record the file pointer should point to in a random access file. (As far as I can figure:) Since the KER383.1 file isn't a random access file a record is delimited by a RETURN, so and R25 specifies 25 lines into the file. This ought to be enough to clear the headers. The REM statements were included as a buffer between the headers and the beginning of the file. There needs to be at least 25 REM lines (which there was) incase the user removed the headers. That prevents the R25 from skipping lines of the actual program. This should have been explained in that REM space. REM FIRST LINE OF KER383.1-- DO NOT REMOVE THESE REM LINES REM SAVE AS "KER383.1" [AS RECEIVED, WITHOUT REMOVING UUCP HEADERS] REM 27632 BYTES *** INSTRUCTIONS *** WARNING KER383.2 IS DELETED The file size, "27632", is the correct file size for KER383.1 with the UUCP headers removed. Anyone want to explain "WARNING KER383.2 IS DELETED"? Is that supposed to mean that it _will_ be deleted by the time KER383.1 is done EXECuting? --------------- I downloaded my copy of Kermit 3.83 from Apple2-L and was able to get it working after a few tries. It would be nice if EXEC files were limited to 25K sections. AppleWorks does more damage than good to EXEC files, so I usually use FredWriter for editing which is limited to about 25K. (Anyone know where I could get the source to FredWriter/FreeWriter? I would like to modify it to use the AUX RAM in 128K machines.) After editing, the sections have to be appended together, which doesn't always work that great. Kermit seemed to work OK at 1200 baud, but was very noisy at 2400 baud (normally I get noise free connections at 2400 baud) and locked up a couple of times. This required escaping to the Kermit prompt and reconnecting. I'm using a //c, so there's no question that interrupts were enabled (no SSC DIP switch.) RE: Mouse text in Kermit Occasionally when using AE some noise will cause the screen to display Mouse text. This is caused by the reception of an ESC (27) and can be turned off with a Ctrl-X (24). In AE you can optionally filter out the ESC character to prevent this. I would guess that this is the same problem that Kermit has. It would probably show up if you had emulation turned off and were connected to a host sending escape codes (VT52, VT100). ___________ / Tom Metro \_____________________________________________________________ | _ _ | | INET: tmetro@pro-angmar.uucp --/\/\_| |_| '- DigiTell, Inc. | | ARPA: crash!pnet01!pro-angmar!tmetro@nosc.mil Newton, MA | |_UUCP:_[ihnp4 sdcsvax nosc]!crash!pnet01!pro%angmar!tmetro________________|