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From: winter@hpldola.HP.COM (Kirt Winter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc
Subject: Re: DOS & MS-windows Vs. Unix & X experience + MS-windows Flame
Message-ID: <11250026@hpldola.HP.COM>
Date: 24 May 88 14:53:20 GMT
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jrg@Apple.COM (John R. Galloway) writes:

>MICRSOFT WRITE.  Any supposedly WYSIWYG window oriented editor that does not
>allow multiple rulers is a toy.  enough said.

Have you looked at Microsoft Works for the Mac?  It works much the same way
as Write, in that it has only one ruler.  However, this doesn't mean that
you can't have different tabs, margins, spacing, etc for different parts of
your document.  The Works ruler shows the tab settings only for the line that
the insertion point is in.  Thus, you get all the flexibility of multiple
rulers without having bunches of them cluttering your screen.  When done
correctly, I prefer this method over multiple rulers.

However, Windows Write's ruler doesn't quite work that way.  You can change
line spacing and margins.  However, the tabs stick through the entire document.
That is the problem.

>PRINTERS AND FONTS.  A very anoying item is that the printer state is not
>maintained with documents.  Hence if I setup for landscape mode under
>Excel and forget to change back when I print a document from MS-write it
>will come out in landscape mode.  This is just silly.  MicroSoft Excel by
>the way is a WONDERFUL program (though I hear it is much faster on the Mac).
> ... flames and more wp comments deleted ...

Most of what you say here is correct.  As far as speed in Excel, it depends
on your hardware.  Display speeds will most certainly be faster with the Mac,
unless your display card has a good on-board processor and Windows driver.
Then the PC should be more competitive.

If you are running on one of the faster ATs, your calculation speed is most
likely faster than a generic Mac.  A Mac II would probably be faster than an
AT.  A good 386 would likely be faster than the Mac II.

Overall, I agree with your wp comments.  I don't feel that Write is a toy,
it can be used for some fairly demanding documents.  I wrote my MS thesis
with it and a LaserJet+.  There are three Windows word processors that are
in late stages of development.  I'm interested to see their results.

If you insist on comparing Windows to the much more mature and capable Unix
windowing systems, you are bound to be disappointed.  However, for those of
us who are stuck in the PC world, I find Windows to be a very useful tool.

Having learned both Windows and the Mac OS concurrently, I really feel that
I have a relatively unbiased opinion.  I like the overall feel of the Mac, and
its way of handling files, etc. is miles ahead of Windows.  However, given a
choice between the current versions of Windows and Multifinder, I'll take
Windows.

>apple!jrg	John R. Galloway, Jr.       contract programmer, San Jose, Ca

Kirt

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 Kirt Alan Winter                                        winter@hpldola.hp.com
 Hewlett Packard - EDD                                   (719) 590-5974
 Colorado Springs, Colorado
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 Desperately searching through this mass of opinions, HP concluded that these
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