Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!mcvax!unido!fauern!faui44!msurlich From: msurlich@faui44.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Matthias Urlichs ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: Hard disk problem -HELP! Summary: Desktop File is full! Keywords: HD crash Desktop Manager Message-ID: <340@faui10.informatik.uni-erlangen.de> Date: 30 May 88 09:02:04 GMT References: <8805271324.AA13160@decwrl.dec.com> Reply-To: msurlich@faui10.UUCP (Matthias Urlichs) Organization: CSD., University of Erlangen, W - Germany Lines: 47 Posted: Mon May 30 10:02:04 1988 In article <8805271324.AA13160@decwrl.dec.com> hunt@atse.dec.com (Phil Hunt) writes: > Well, it finally happened. My Mac II internal hard disk has a directory > structure error. It is a PCPC IHD144 meg disk that had 13meg free on it, > so it is pretty full. > > ... (putting files onto the HD, opening folder, CHASH) ... The Desktop file is a resource file. A resource file holds a limited number of resources. Every icon and Creator is a resource. Therefore, when you opened your new folder, the Finder tried to put some more icons into the Desktop file. An overflowing resource file results in a spectacular crash on any Mac (APPLE: THIS IS A BUG!). Rebuilding the Desktop, et al, has pretty much the same effect (the Finder takes all icons it can find, and puts them all into the new Desktop file) and so results in pretty much the same crash. Unfortunately, there's no telling what went awry, so you'd better... > What can I try now??? > 1) Get the Desktop Manager. It's located on every AppleShare Server installation disk but probably freely distributable (APPLE?). Put this into the System folder on your startup disk. 2) Erase the parameter RAM, which is probably the cause why your Mac can't find its HD. (Command-Shift-Option-Chooser) Set the HD to the Startup device (SE,II only) 3) Mount the HD, using your installer program. Better update the driver on the way. 4) When quitting, hold Option-Command and rebuild the Desktop file on the HD. Because you booted w/ the Desktop Manager, this will work. 5) Put the Desktop Manager into the System folder of your HD. 6) Using DiskTop (or something similar), take the Desktop file of a newly initialized floppy and copy it onto the HD, replacing the old (invisible) file named "Desktop" you find there (root level, not system folder). This will prevent an automatic Desktop file rebuilt if you, perchance, start up from a floppy w/o Desktop Manager. It will also free the space (probably 300k) used up by the old Desktop file. 7) Replace System and Finder on the HD. They're probably kaput. Better not to take chances. 8) Check that all data are still there. (You do have a backup, don't you?) Your HD should boot next time you turn on the Mac. -- Matthias Urlichs CompuServe: 72437,1357 Delphi: URLICHS Rainwiesenweg 9 Phone: +49+911-574180 8501 Schwaig 2 NetMail: m_urlichs@msn.rmi.de West Germany or: (r)eply and (h)ope