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From: pem@cadnetix.COM (Paul Meyer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.programmer
Subject: Re: Getting started in Mac programming...
Summary: Somebody "getting started" sounds unlikely to be doing any of that!
Keywords: Make, MPW, LSC
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Date: 23 May 88 17:52:52 GMT
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	As someone who is very familiar with UNIX Makefiles, and
maintains a system that plays a lot of network file games such as you
describe AT WORK, I find that the simplicity and speed of LSC is
refreshing when I go to hack on my Mac AT HOME.

	As I interpret the thrust of the original question, 0% of your
comments on the superiority of MPW makefiles over LSC's automatic
system are applicable.  At home (where presumably someone who is
getting started on the Mac will be), I don't have NFS.  I don't have a
Sun4 to farm time-expensive work out to.  I don't have 2 close
co-workers and a building full of library consumers to interface with.
What I do have is one machine that I don't like to wait for.  LSC
minimizes my waiting, and that's what I want.  A decent optimization
capability for final application build would be nice, but for normal
use LSC is exactly what I want, only less so (give me 0 compile time
as well as 0 link time, without slowing editing, and give me this
NOW!) but I will accept real-world constraints.

	Now, If I were developing Mac software here at work, I'd still
be unsatisfied with MPW because the Mac OS is unlikely to ever support
NFS and rpc.  I'd be wanting to use A/UX.

	Nobody has yet convinced me I'd be better off paying twice as
much for MPW than for LSC.  I don't consider this a religious issue,
and if I had the time and inclination to write a really big
application set where makefiles and object files would really help I
might get MPW, but for "the rest of the rest of us" I think LSC is
better.

Paul Meyer                      pem@cadnetix.COM
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