Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!bellcore!tness7!killer!mit-eddie!bu-cs!bzs From: bzs@bu-cs.BU.EDU (Barry Shein) Newsgroups: comp.windows.x Subject: Re: Tiling window managers (was RTL) Message-ID: <22825@bu-cs.BU.EDU> Date: 24 May 88 14:20:50 GMT References: <8805231933.AA03049@lotus.siemens.com> Organization: Boston U. Comp. Sci. Lines: 28 In-reply-to: jcc@LOTUS.SIEMENS.COM's message of 23 May 88 19:33:32 GMT yeah...this is the right place... What I honestly don't understand is what is the (user design) attraction of tiling window managers? I tried the one that came with Andrew and thought it was the most annoying thing I'd ever seen as my windows flickered and resized and zipped about as if possessed. It always seems that I have to do some small strategy to get my windows "right" and a tiling window manager just defeats that control. What's the big advantage of merely avoiding overlapped windows at the cost of losing control and ending up with weird sized windows and having them move around so you frequently have to visually scan them all to remember where they are? I don't think "losing" a window due to overlapping is a very good argument since there are any number of ways to solve that, tiling seeming to be a more intrusive approach (eg. a menu in the root window which provides all the windows that can be brought forward, perhaps clients could provide a manager with good descriptive strings for that or even a user could provide it at window creation time via a dialogue box requested by clicking the window to be identified.) Seriously, not a flame, I just truly don't know where this goal came from or why anyone ever decided it was worth putting any effort into, can someone make a case, I am honestly curious, I don't get it. -Barry Shein, Boston University