Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!husc6!mit-eddie!alw From: alw@eddie.MIT.EDU (Alan Wu) Newsgroups: sci.electronics Subject: Re: More X10 questions Summary: cheap and compatible sets the standard Keywords: X10, home automation Message-ID: <9318@eddie.MIT.EDU> Date: 25 May 88 15:49:42 GMT References: <8805250054.AA15025@jade.berkeley.edu> Reply-To: alw@eddie.MIT.EDU (Alan Wu) Organization: MIT, EE/CS Computer Facilities, Cambridge, MA Lines: 32 The company that sold X10 compatible modules with status feedback was First Alert (Pittway); I still have the sales literature filed away at home. Naturally, you could only get feedback with their modules and central controller, but it was backwards-compatible with X10 modules. The controller had some relatively advanced features for the time, such as programmable control including day-of-week, and a rudimentary security alarm feature. It was not marketed very well; I never actually saw one in the flesh, in spite of looking for it in Boston and New York. There was another outfit called Anova a few years later, which had a modular telephone/answering machine/home control/alarm system with some kind of line carrier remote modules. I actually saw one of these systems, but they were quite expensive and compatibility with X10 was never mentioned. Anova also dropped the product, and may even be out of business. I guess the marketing lesson is that making something cheap, compatible, and available through multiple distribution channels is more important in establishing a foothold than is a fancy high-end system. Once X10 was established as a de facto standard, nobody else could displace it. If X10 USA is really clever, they could extend their standard in an upwards-compatible way and add in closed-loop feedback of some sort without breaking the existing standard. By the way, does anybody have archives of past messages concerning X10? I got swamped with work and had to stop reading netnews just around the time things got interesting about 6 months back. -- --Alan Wu Usenet: alw@mit-eddie / Internet: alw@eddie.mit.edu Telephone: (617) 253-5624