Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!husc6!cmcl2!brl-adm!umd5!uflorida!novavax!proxftl!bill From: bill@proxftl.UUCP (T. William Wells) Newsgroups: comp.ai Subject: Re: Free Will-Randomness and Question-Structure Message-ID: <304@proxftl.UUCP> Date: 12 Jun 88 16:44:06 GMT References: <22533@teknowledge-vaxc.ARPA> <194@proxftl.UUCP> <1214@crete.cs.glasgow.ac.uk> Distribution: comp.ai Organization: Proximity Technology, Ft. Lauderdale Lines: 18 In article <1214@crete.cs.glasgow.ac.uk>, gilbert@cs.glasgow.ac.uk (Gilbert Cockton) writes: > In article <194@proxftl.UUCP> bill@proxftl.UUCP (T. William Wells) writes: > >(N.B. The mathematician's "true" is not the same thing as the > > epistemologist's "true". > Which epistemologist? The reality and truth of mathematical objects > has been a major concern in many branches of philosophy. Many would > see mathematics, when it succeeds in formalising proof, as one form of > truth. Perhaps consistency is a better word, and we should reserve > truth for the real thing :-) Actually, the point was just that: when I say that something is true in a mathematical sense, I mean just one thing: the thing follows from the chosen axioms; when I say that something is epistemologically true (sorry about the neologism), I mean one thing, someone else means something else, and a third declares the idea meaningless. Thus the two kinds of truth need to be considered separately.