Xref: utzoo comp.ai:1944 talk.philosophy.misc:1091 sci.philosophy.tech:637 Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!husc6!mit-eddie!mit-amt!bc From: bc@mit-amt.MEDIA.MIT.EDU (bill coderre) Newsgroups: comp.ai,talk.philosophy.misc,sci.philosophy.tech Subject: Re: Free Will & Self-Awareness Message-ID: <2619@mit-amt.MEDIA.MIT.EDU> Date: 14 Jun 88 14:31:43 GMT References: <8805151907.AA01702@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> <445@aiva.ed.ac.uk> <463@aiva.ed.ac.uk> <306@proxftl.UUCP> <6268@well.UUCP> Reply-To: bc@media-lab.media.mit.edu.MEDIA.MIT.EDU (squid disco) Organization: MIT Media Lab, Cambridge MA Lines: 32 In article <6268@well.UUCP> sierch@well.UUCP (Michael Sierchio) writes: >The debate about free will is funny to one who has been travelling >with mystics and sages -- who would respond by saying that freedom >and volition have nothing whatsoever to do with one another.... (this is gonna sound like my just previous article in comp.ai, so you can read that too if you like) Although what free will is and how something gets it are interesting philosophical debates, they are not AI. Might I submit that comp.ai is for the discussion of AI: its programming tricks and techniques, and maybe a smattering of social repercussions and philosophical issues. I have no desire to argue semantics and definitions, especially about slippery topics such as the above. And although the occasional note is interesting (and indeed my colleague Mr Sierchio's is sweet), endless discussions of whether some lump of organic matter (either silicon- or carbon-based) CAN POSSIBLY have "free will" (which only begs the question of where to buy some and what to carry it in) is best confined to a group where the readership is interested in such things. Naturally, I shall not belabour you with endless discussions of neural nets merely because of their interesting modelling of Real(tm) neurons. But if you are interested in AI techniques and their rather interesting approaches to the fundamental problems of intelligence and learning (many of which draw on philosophy and epistemology), please feel free to inquire. I thank you for your kinds attention.....................mr bc