Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!lll-winken!lll-tis!helios.ee.lbl.gov!pasteur!ucbvax!UCSD.EDU!brian From: brian@UCSD.EDU (Brian Kantor) Newsgroups: comp.os.xinu Subject: Re: New Port - advice requested Message-ID: <8806101339.AA18995@ucsd.edu> Date: 10 Jun 88 13:39:07 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 37 I'm told that the SANDPAC board will be marketed in kit form for something around $200 or so by the Tucson Amateur Packet Radio group, and in some fully-assembled version (probably around $500 or so) by a ham radio manufacturer. It's primarily aimed at the ham radio market, but every other ham packet radio product has been snapped up by non-ham users, so I wouldn't be surprised if that happened with this one too. I have one of 10 prototypes. The others are out at various places around the country where similarly demented people such as myself are porting things to it: other kinds of networking code, such as the Net/Rom product (a proprietary datagram forwarding system); and Phil Karn at Bellcore has one he's playing tcp/ip with. I'm told that the board has also been made to run some version of MS-DOS (ecch). The radio link speed is limited by legal bandwidth restrictions for the most part. 1200 bps is by far most widely used, since with inexpensive modems it occupies about the same radio bandwidth as a voice signal and so is well tolerated by the other users of the ham bands. 9600 bps is used in some less-dense areas of the ham bands. A prototype 56Kbit radio modem is available from some experimenters in Florida for about $200 or so in partial-kit form, but you have to add about $500 of parts and radio to complete that. More information on the SANDPAC PS-186 board is probably available from the developers (write to mike@net1.ucsd.edu). A paper discussing the hardware design issues was published in the 6th ARRL Computer Networking Conference Proceedings, available for under $20 from the American Radio Relay League in Newington, Connecticut, or at large ham radio stores in your hometown. Those Proceedings and earlier ones also present the evolution of digital communications in the ham radio field, and might be interesting reading. There is also a USENET newsgroup and corresponding Internet mailing list for ham packet radio topics. Thanks for the advice! - Brian