Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!lll-winken!lll-tis!ames!killer!tness7!tness1!sugar!karl From: karl@sugar.UUCP (Karl Lehenbauer) Newsgroups: comp.std.misc Subject: Re: Open Software Foundation... Message-ID: <2105@sugar.UUCP> Date: 12 Jun 88 02:24:23 GMT References: <5745@potomac.ads.com> Organization: Sugar Land UNIX - Houston, TX Lines: 26 I agree that the OSF will have a negative effect on Unix's acceptance by creating two Unixes when we were about to get down to having almost only one and by the expected 18 month lead time for the standards to show up. I think if they were serious, they would have said something like "The current working standard is System V Release 2" along with the announcment. Perhaps they still will. I would counsel any company seriously committed to Unix to be very careful before getting into bed with IBM and DEC on this issue. By the number of people they're hiring to work on this standard (hundreds), it's almost guaranteed to be late and of poor quality. (ref. Brooks, Frederick, _The Mythical Man Month_) As far as everyone getting a "say" in new Unix standards, I think the same thing is true. I'd rather put it in the hands of some benign dictators. We've seen this design-by-committee stuff fail too many times. Indeed, many attribute a lot of Unix's success to the fact that it was originally designed and built by a small group of very talented designers without much pressure to ship a product. When there are a lot of designers, for some reason, the results seem to always lack consistency and there is too much of a tendency to make deals, like "I'll vote for your new pet tumor if you'll vote for my new festering pustule." As for who the dictators would be, how about the creators of it, Ritchie, Kernighan, et al, with a few specific things in their charter like that it support multiprocessing, realtime and transaction processing? -- -- nuchat is down. Please use ..!bellcore!tness1!sugar!karl or -- ..!academ!uhnix1!sugar!karl for mail.