Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!husc6!spdcc!gnosys!gnews From: gnews@gnosys.UUCP (Gary S. Trujillo ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.att Subject: Re: TeX for the 3b1 Summary: summary of info on TeX Keywords: TeX Message-ID: <34@gnosys.UUCP> Date: 13 Jun 88 18:28:16 GMT References: <33@wzlr.UUCP> <7600008@uiucdcsm> Reply-To: gst@gnosys.UUCP (Gary S. Trujillo) Organization: gst's 3B1 - Somerville, Massachusetts Lines: 263 In article <7600008@uiucdcsm> hartman@uiucdcsm.cs.uiuc.edu writes: > >In article <207@jhereg.Jhereg.MN.ORG>, mark@jhereg.Jhereg.MN.ORG (Mark H. Colburn) writes: >> A while back, someone was offering a complete version of TeX which had >> been ported to the 3b1. If my memory serves, this included a >> previewer and a bunch of printers supported, including Epsons, >> Imagewriters, etc. I would be grateful for any information about >> this. >> -- >> Mark H. Colburn mark@jhereg.Jhereg.MN.ORG >> ..!ihnp4!chinet!jhereg!mark Well, folks, I don't now and never have run TeX, but I am an incurable packrat. Here's a slightly edited dump of what I happened to have lying around on the subject. Hope it helps! Gary ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: elh@vu-vlsi.UUCP (Edward L. Hepler) Newsgroups: unix-pc.general,comp.sys.att Subject: UNIX/PC tex, latex, and previewer Keywords: TeX, LaTeX, UNIX/PC 7300 Message-ID: <1094@vu-vlsi.UUCP> Date: 29 Aug 87 02:11:39 GMT Organization: Villanova Univ. EE Dept. I have ported the C version of TeX (and of course LaTeX) to my 3b1. I have also generated a previewer based on Nelson Beebe's dvi drivers and a texview program posted to the net a while back. This version of the previewer uses either the pk, gf, or pxl format fonts and attempts to substitute something reasonable when a particular font can't be found. I currently only use the pk format (for obvious disk space reasons). I have also ported the previewer to a Sun 3, but it needs a bit more work before I would consider it usable and friendly. The user can see approximately half of a page when using the UNIX/PC version and an entire page when using the SUN version. Of course commands exist to move the page around on the screen to view hidden parts. I imagine that a few (if not a lot) of those on the net with UNIX/PCs would like a copy of this. The problem I have is that the C version of TeX source, previewer source, etc consumes 7 Meg of disk space (uncompressed) while the macros and 5 magnifications of the computer modern font set (in pk format) takes another 4 Megs. The executable of the previewer and virtex take about a half a Meg. I never got an undump to work on the UNIX/PC so my call to tex or latex is simply a shell script that calls virtex and loads the appropriate format file. I am looking for suggestions on how to get this info into interested party's hands. I don't really want to have to handle hundreds of floppies from people and my only phone line into my machine is also my home voice line (anyone want to donate another line :-) ). I think posting the source and everything else necessary to make it work would be unworkable?. I'll listen for suggestions for about a week before deciding how to proceed. Please let me know what you think..... Thanks, Dr. Ed Hepler elh@vu-vlsi ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jdc@naucse.UUCP (John Campbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.att Subject: 3b1 TeX Keywords: Hepler Message-ID: <564@naucse.UUCP> Date: 10 Feb 88 13:27:53 GMT Organization: Northern Arizona University, Flagstaff, AZ I feel a responsibility to respond to pjh@hao, but uucp doesn't seem to feel the same way. This netter saw a remark I made about TeX on my 3b1: Yes TeX lives on 3b1s! Dr. Edward L. Hepler did a port and offered Common TeX and some drivers (plus a 3b1 previewer). It was too large to post, so he requested that you send him 12 formatted floppies. It has been a while since he made the offer; you should contact him to see if he is still "in the business". (Maybe he's reading this and can post a follow up, since at least one 3b1 user was unaware of the offer.) If you work with TeX and have a 3b1, I'd like to keep in touch. I'm trying to decide if I should buy a NEC P6 24pin printer. (Since I can't reach pjh, maybe someone else wants to start a TeX email correspondence :-). Dr. Edward L. Hepler Adj. Prof. (VLSI Design and Advanced Computer Architecture) E.E. Dept. Villanova University elh@vu-vlsi Cheers. -- John Campbell ...!arizona!naucse!jdc ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rosalia@mozart.UUCP (Mark Galassi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.att Subject: Re: 3b1 TeX (available via anonymous FTP) Keywords: TeX, ftp Message-ID: <11@mozart.UUCP> Date: 14 Feb 88 16:11:52 GMT References: <564@naucse.UUCP> Reply-To: rosalia@mozart.UUCP (Mark Galassi) Organization: Mark Galassi Research, Stony Brook, New York. In article <564@naucse.UUCP> jdc@naucse.UUCP (John Campbell) writes: >Yes TeX lives on 3b1s! Dr. Edward L. Hepler did a port and offered >Common TeX and some drivers (plus a 3b1 previewer). It was too large >to post, so he requested that you send him 12 formatted floppies. I got the package from Ed, and I am willing to make it available via anonymous ftp from "noether.sunysb.edu". Before I do that, I need to know if anyone who uses UNIX PCs has arpanet access. Please send me mail if you have arpanet access and would like TeX for the 3B1; or if you have an estimate that lots of other UNIX PC owners have this. In passing: the TeX port works nicely, the previewer is a bit strange though. Probably because it tries to fit things on the monitor which has a funny resolution, and it also tries to match up fonts with the UNIX PC fonts. -- Mark Galassi ...!icus!mozart!rosalia ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: elh@vu-vlsi.UUCP (Edward L. Hepler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.att Subject: Re: 3b1 TeX (available via anonymous FTP) Keywords: TeX, ftp Message-ID: <1361@vu-vlsi.UUCP> Date: 16 Feb 88 21:31:53 GMT References: <564@naucse.UUCP> <11@mozart.UUCP> Organization: Villanova Univ. EE Dept. No, the previewer does not use the UNIX PC fonts. There are fonts which have been generated using metafont for the UNIX PC previewer package. The base for the metafont generation was calculated from the 3b1 monitor specs. Some of those look strange (compared to what they will look like coming from a laser printer) due to the low bit density (bit pitch) of the 3b1 monitor. It does substitute in a font of a different size if the required font size is not present on the system.... Ed Hepler elh@vu-vlsi ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: hartman@uiucdcsm.cs.uiuc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.att Subject: Re: 3b1 TeX (available via anonymou Message-ID: <7600005@uiucdcsm> Date: 20 Feb 88 21:14:00 GMT References: <11@mozart.UUCP> >/* ---------- "Re: 3b1 TeX (available via anonymou" ---------- */ ... > I got the package from Ed, and I am willing to make it available via > anonymous ftp from "noether.sunysb.edu". Before I do that, I need to > know if anyone who uses UNIX PCs has arpanet access. Please > send me mail if you have arpanet access and would like TeX for the > 3B1; or if you have an estimate that lots of other UNIX PC owners > have this. ... > Mark Galassi > ...!icus!mozart!rosalia Has anyone been able to to get this yet? I can't seem to find the host "noether.sunysb.edu", and mail I sent to the address given above got bounced back. Anybody had better luck? Could someone send me the internet number of "noether"? --------------------------------------------------- Mark Hartman ihnp4!uiucdcs!hartman hartman@m.cs.uiuc.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: hartman@uiucdcsm.cs.uiuc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.att Subject: Re: ftp access for TeX? Message-ID: <7600006@uiucdcsm> Date: 9 Mar 88 05:06:00 GMT References: <4500008@uicsgva> /* Written 10:11 am Mar 1, 1988 by tobin@uicsgva.UUCP in uiucdcsm:comp.sys.att */ /* ---------- "ftp access for TeX?" ---------- */ Last February 21st, Mark Galassi posted a note saying he would be willing to make TeX available to those with ftp access to arpanet. Unfortunately, I cannot seem to find the net address of the host "noether.sunysb.edu", and mail I sent to Mark was bounced back to me. Does anyone know the net address for noether, or have a better mail address for Mark? I would appreciate any help, as we are quite anxious to get TeX up on our 3b1's! Thanks, Paul Tobin Dept. of Electrical Engineering University of Illinois tobin@bach.csg.uiuc.edu /* End of text from uiucdcsm:comp.sys.att */ The internet number for noether.sunysb.edu is 129.49.4.4, but as far as I know the sources are not there. I have also had problems sending mail to Mark Galassi. So Mark, if you are out there, add another vote for making TeX available! -- Mark Hartman hartman@a.cs.uiuc.edu ihnp4!uiucdcs!hartman ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dquah@e5274b.UUCP (Danny Quah) Newsgroups: comp.sys.att,comp.sys.mac,comp.text Subject: printers to do TeX(tures) output, 3b1, Mac Keywords: TeX, non PostScript, 3b1, Mac Message-ID: <170@e5274b.UUCP> Date: 4 Apr 88 01:06:09 GMT Organization: Economics MIT I run TeXtures (Kellerman-Smith) on a Mac Plus, as well Ed Hepler's port of TeX proper to the AT&T 3b1. I am wondering what the net's experience has been with non Post Script (tm) laser printers off of both these machines, specifically with printing TeX output. What would be especially nice is a printer that can be driven by both the 3b1 as well as the Mac Plus. (TeXtures prints ok on an Imagewriter I, so clearly it's comfortable with QuickDraw). There may not be sufficient interest on the net with this kind of overlap, so please mail and I will summarize. Any makers of non Post Script (tm) laser printers on the net reading this? -- --Danny dquah@dolphin.mit.edu; e5274b!dquah@eddie.mit.edu (617) 253-0914. Dept. of Economics MIT, E52-274b, Cambridge MA 02139. ...{mit-eddie, harvard!spdcc}!e5274b!dquah -- Gary S. Trujillo {ihnp4,linus,bbn,m2c}!spdcc!gnosys!gst Somerville, Massachusetts {cirl,ima,stech,wjh12}!gnosys!gst -- Gary S. Trujillo {ihnp4,linus,bbn,m2c}!spdcc!gnosys!gst Somerville, Massachusetts {cirl,ima,stech,wjh12}!gnosys!gst