Xref: utzoo comp.sys.att:3488 comp.unix.questions:7597 comp.sys.ibm.pc:16366 Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!husc6!cmcl2!phri!marob!samperi From: samperi@marob.MASA.COM (Dominick Samperi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.att,comp.unix.questions,comp.sys.ibm.pc Subject: Re: AT&T vs. CSS (PC/Tools) Keywords: AT&T, lawsuit, CSS, PC/Tools Message-ID: <308@marob.MASA.COM> Date: 14 Jun 88 13:46:39 GMT References: <403@mancol.UUCP> <102@dcs.UUCP> <395@hotlr.ATT> <109@dcs.UUCP> <36@gnosys.UUCP> Reply-To: samperi@marob.UUCP (Dominick Samperi) Organization: 18th Street Consulting Lines: 25 CIn article <36@gnosys.UUCP> gst@gnosys.UUCP (Gary S. Trujillo) writes: C>In article <109@dcs.UUCP> wnp@dcs.UUCP (Wolf N. Paul) writes: C>> ... C>> However, in order to have access to BSD source you need a UNIX source license, C>> which these folks presumably did not have. Also, I would not be surprised C>> to find out that vi/ex contains large chunks of ed source. C> C>at Berkeley, was that ex/vi *is* covered by the AT&T license EVEN THOUGH IT C>CONTAINS NOT A SINGLE LINE OF CODE FROM ED!! The fact is that they started C>by hacking on the ed code, and even though they hollowed the thing out and I started this discussion, and I'm not sure that the original question is being addressed: the article said that AT&T won a settlement against CSS because CSS "used ideas from UNIX." Source code copying may not have been the issue. The question is: if I develop tools that have the same (or more) functionality as some of the standard UNIX tools (ls, rm, cpio, tar, etc.), then can I use the same program names? And if not, can I use the word "UNIX" in describing the functionality of the tools? Does MKS have a license from AT&T? -- Dominick Samperi, NYC samperi@acf8.NYU.EDU samperi@marob.MASA.COM cmcl2!phri!marob uunet!swlabs!mancol!samperi (^ ell)