Path: utzoo!dciem!nrcaer!scs!spl1!laidbak!att!pacbell!ames!nrl-cmf!cmcl2!brl-adm!adm!mrose@twg.com From: mrose@twg.com (Marshall Rose) Newsgroups: comp.unix.wizards Subject: Re: 4.4 bsd will include OSI support Message-ID: <16006@brl-adm.ARPA> Date: 4 Jun 88 18:08:13 GMT Article-I.D.: brl-adm.16006 Sender: news@brl-adm.ARPA Lines: 40 Mumble, mumble. Although the article was mostly accurate, a couple of the details were wrong. I know 'cause I was one of the people Karyl Scott talked to when writing the article. First off, Berkeley has not stated what the next BSD release will be called. Although the name "4.4" is a possibility, it could just as easily be something else (like "4.3c"). Next, you imply that DoD is funding the development of vendor products to allow TCP/IP and OSI interoperate. WRONG. What the article said is that the project is working on a couple of application-layer gateways, but that some vendors are also working on other things, like transport-level bridges. The article says that testing will occur before the release of the OSI code. Unlikely. My guess is that one release will go out with only partial testing. The rest will get tested after that release. The reason for this is that conformance test suites do not exist (but may soon) for all parts of all layers in the stack. Now, the article is sort of WRONG (but well-intentioned) when it says the networking code will be free. For the OSI in the kernel, the code will be available under the usual Berkeley UNIX license. The stuff above the kernel will be donated to the ISO Development Environment, an openly-available implementaton of the OSI upper-layers. ISODE is openly-available, but not public-domain. This means that 1) you pay a modest handling fee at one of the four world-wide distribution sites, usually around $300, 2) you never sign a license, but 3) you agree to hold everyone (particularly ME) harmless from anything bad that happens. By the way, it is not helpful to pool rumors. Most rumors are just plain wrong. It is better to get on the phone (like to the author of the article in question) and ask precisely what you want to know. Of course, don't tell her that you called PC Week Connectivity a "rag" in public. /mtr