Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!lll-winken!lll-lcc!ames!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!bloom-beacon!mit-eddie!bbn!rochester!ken From: ken@cs.rochester.edu (Ken Yap) Newsgroups: comp.society.futures Subject: Re: The future of AI Message-ID: <10617@sol.ARPA> Date: 16 Jun 88 11:28:56 GMT References: <48.22A3B84F@isishq.UUCP> <4347@killer.UUCP> <672@auvax.UUCP> <534@white.gcm> Reply-To: ken@cs.rochester.edu (Ken Yap) Organization: U of Rochester, CS Dept, Rochester, NY Lines: 42 The scientific method is not merely about finding answers to yes/no questions. Yes, the earth is not flat, but then it is not quite a sphere either. It is an oblate spheroid, with bumps and depressions due to local variations in gravity. The point here is that the real world is much richer than a collection of binary facts can capture. Those who argue against the possibility of AI on the grounds of that it reduces man to machines are on shaky ground. Think about those who fought to retain a heliocentric universe. So maybe man is a collection of cells but what a wonderful collection, as revealed through biology. Why do you feel insecure when there is simply no comparison? Mysticism has nothing to do with it. Certainly there are other modes of perceiving the world other than the objective one of the scientific method, as well there should be. Science doesn't claim to know everything and does not prove there is no God or supernatural phenomenon, or whatever. (By the way, if your idea of God is a superbeing who put together the earth and its inhabitants from a Meccano set at 4 pm, July 20th 7000 AD, or something like that, perhaps you should take a less restrictive view of God.) Perhaps, in the fullness of time, SOME mysteries will receive rational explaination, but I believe there will always be richer secrets to understand about the universe. Arguing that AI is not possible because machines cannot be mystics is the old "machines cannot do X" argument. I agree with those who rail against the trend to deal with the world in mechanistic terms. Is AI possible? is not an interesting question because it is a yes/no question and will be proved one way or another, assuming we don't blow ourselves up first. The more important question to ask is: what do we WANT it to be like? Years ago I read a tongue-in-cheek article in one of those personal computing rags, the type with Star Trek programs in BASIC, about the log of a burglar alarm system. In short, the system identified the intruder as a recidivistic criminal, received authorization from the central security databank to terminate the intruder, zapped the criminal with a 10 MW laser then proceeded to clean the mess. At least I hope it was tongue-in-cheek, because I find this kind of thinking scary. There are things that are simply not appropriate to delegate to machines. These issues, and those surrounding other technologies like gene splicing bear much discussion before the future is upon us. Ken