Xref: utzoo talk.politics.theory:1088 comp.society.futures:569 comp.misc:2600 talk.politics.misc:10580 comp.std.misc:24 soc.misc:733 Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!husc6!think!ames!decwrl!labrea!carcoar!andy From: andy@carcoar.Stanford.EDU (Andy Freeman) Newsgroups: talk.politics.theory,comp.society.futures,comp.misc,talk.politics.misc,ba.politics,comp.std.misc,soc.misc Subject: Re: Rewarding Researchers Without Restricting Copying Keywords: copyright patent economics ISA Message-ID: <22611@labrea.Stanford.EDU> Date: 14 Jun 88 23:54:01 GMT References: <10777@agate.BERKELEY.EDU> Sender: news@labrea.Stanford.EDU Reply-To: andy@carcoar.Stanford.EDU (Andy Freeman) Organization: Stanford University Lines: 46 In article <10777@agate.BERKELEY.EDU> hans@web8e.berkeley.edu (Hans Reiser ) writes: Reiser's scheme doesn't work for a large fraction of the software market, and distorts the hardware market. There are lots of programs that only have a few users each. They don't have lots of users because they're fairly specialized. Producers of such software won't be paid by Reiser's ISA because it doesn't (and can't) survey every user; it merely survey's a statistically significant portion. This is fine for operating systems, editors, compilers, spreadsheets, some databases but not much else. (For example, there are very few airline databases and their software is specialized, so airline database programmers won't get squat from ISA.) In addition, the software cost to the hardware cost is basically wrong. Look at the PC/clone market. Extremely reliable machines tend to cost more, as do portables, but why should the ISA tax on these machines be higher than that on the cheaper desk-top models? At best, the ISA serves a portion of the hardware and software market. Since those groups can already form such an organization yet they haven't, it seems that the people who would actually benefit from an ISA don't want it. The ISA that Reiser is really promoting requires more coercion than he's admitting to because he's lobbying congressmen. (If it didn't, he could set it up himself and sign up any hardware and software types who were interested.) I suspect he's a stooge for a large software house (or he's a wannabe). They'll naturally benefit from a process that can be influenced by politics like "we deserve a bigger portion because we're constantly releasing new versions while that guy hasn't updated his program in years" or even "we have 100 programmers, we should get more money than some guy working in a garage even though the same number of people use our programs." -andy ps - Anyone who thinks that the ISA won't get into software development is smoking better stuff than I can afford. Of course, ISA-developed software will be benefit from the politics mentioned above. UUCP: {arpa gateways, decwrl, uunet, rutgers}!polya.stanford.edu!andy ARPA: andy@polya.stanford.edu (415) 329-1718/723-3088 home/cubicle