Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!lll-winken!lll-tis!helios.ee.lbl.gov!pasteur!ucbvax!RICHTER.MIT.EDU!krowitz From: krowitz@RICHTER.MIT.EDU (David Krowitz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo Subject: Re: Apollo's NFS !! Message-ID: <8806091852.AA06278@richter.mit.edu> Date: 9 Jun 88 18:52:49 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 37 We use a beta-test copy (yup, still have not gotten around to shelling out real bucks) of NFS to read and write files between our Apollos and 1) a Sun 3/160 reading/writing a tar tape 2) an Alliant FX/1 running Fortran programs 3) an Alliant FX/40 running Fortran programs 4) the same Sun 3/160 editing files 5) a PC/XT clone running a CD-ROM reader (has not been used for some time). Since Sun created NFS, I'd say that being able to work with a Sun is the definition of a working NFS implementation. Many of the other 'implementations' of NFS are simply licensed copies of Sun's source code that have been plugged into the vendor's version of BSD4.2. If Apollo NFS works with Sun and (for example only) Pyramid NFS works with Sun and Apollo NFS does *not* work with Pyramid NFS, whose problem is it? Apollos? Pyramid's? Who can say? Maybe it's Sun's problem for not having a validation suite which is tight enough? God knows that TCP/IP has been out long enough for vendors to have presumably gotten the hang of it, and yet we've still had ethernets brought to their knees by /etc/routed implementations that didn't do so well in the MIT Internet environment. There is a very old dilema for computer managers. That is the decision whether to buy all of your equipment from the same vendor, or to save some (potentially very large) bucks by buying your peripherals directly from the distributor. The trade off is between saving money, and the endless finger pointing that occurs when something isn't working. Vendor independent networking has this endless finger pointing even when it is business as usual. -- David Krowitz krowitz@richter.mit.edu (18.83.0.109) krowitz%richter@eddie.mit.edu krowitz%richter@athena.mit.edu krowitz%richter.mit.edu@mitvma.bitnet (in order of decreasing preference)