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Reason for return is: %MAIL-E-OPENOUT, error opening USERDISK0:[USER]MAIL.MAI; as output -SYSTEM-F-IVDEVNAM, invalid device name Returned mail follows: ------------------------------ Received: From CANADA01(MAILER) by BINGVAXA with Jnet id 9114 for VY9125@BINGVAXA; Wed, 15 Jun 88 00:41 EST Received: by CANADA01 (Mailer X1.24) id 9113; Wed, 15 Jun 88 00:41:14 EDT Date: Tue, 14 Jun 88 20:23:56 PDT Reply-To: Info-Atari8@Score.Stanford.edu Sender: INFO-ATARI8 Discussion Comments: Warning -- original Sender: tag was Info-Atari8-request@Score.Stanford.EDU From: Info-Atari8 Digest Subject: Info-Atari8 Digest V88 #63 To: TODD KRISSEL Info-Atari8 Digest Tuesday, June 14, 1988 Volume 88 : Issue 63 This weeks Editor: Bill Westfield Today's Topics: Re: modem connections OMNIVIEW vs. eyes Re: AMAC bugs? DUP.SYS and Atariwriter PD disassemblers ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 9 Jun 88 13:30:26 GMT From: ihnp4!ihlpe!kimes@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Kit Kimes) Subject: Re: modem connections To: info-atari8@score.stanford.edu In article <8806062023.AA09302@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU>, SHAFFERJ@BKNLVMS.BITNET ("Jim Shaffer, Jr.") writes: > Does anyone have a non-permanently-damaging way of connecting a modem to > a telephone that's hardwired to the telephone line? I have seen at least two ways to handle this problem. If you have a standard round mouthpiece (removable) on the phone, you can get a device that replaces the mouthpiece and has a modular phone jack built-in. The other way is a device that Radio Shack sells that slips over the earpiece and the mouthpiece and basically converts your direct connect modem into an acoustical modem. It costs $49.95 according to the 1988 catalog. > Is plugging the modem into the handset cord safe? I don't believe that it will work. Kit Kimes AT&T--Information Systems Labs ...ihnp4!ihlpe!kimes ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jun 88 21:40:30 EDT From: melnik@topaz.rutgers.edu (Ofer Melnik) To: INFO-ATARI8@score.stanford.edu Dear Moderator: Please add my name to your mailing list. And please send any INTRO files you may have about the system. Thanx in advance, Ofer Melnik ------------------------------ Date: 9 Jun 88 22:40:16 GMT From: ihnp4!ihlpm!njd@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (DiMasi) Subject: OMNIVIEW vs. eyes To: info-atari8@score.stanford.edu I have a few of questions to ask of anyone out there who uses OMNIVIEW: 1) Does OMNIVIEW's 80-column display cause you significant (to you) eyestrain? (In my case, it usually does not.) 2) If the answer to (1) is "Yes," has it been enough to stop you from using OMNIVIEW? 3) If you have seen the XEP-80's display, is it a lot better, or only marginally better? 4) Do you plan to switch to using an XEP-80 someday? I am asking these questions because I got into a discussion with Matt Ratcliff on DELPHI about OMNIVIEW and the XEP-80, and I wanted to know how you all feel about it. Nick DiMasi Uni'q Digital Technologies (Fox Valley Software subsidiary; ^ working as a contractor at AT&T Bell Labs in Naperville, IL) ( | this is an accent mark, supposed to replace the dot over the 'i') ------------------------------ Date: 8 Jun 88 04:06:11 GMT From: osu-cis!att!mtunx!mtune!icus!limbic!gil@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (Gil Kloepfer Jr.) Subject: Re: AMAC bugs? To: info-atari8@score.stanford.edu In article <8806061516.AA03720@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> SHAFFERJ@BKNLVMS.BITNET ("Jim Shaffer, Jr.") writes: |>A while ago someone mentioned that there were some serious bugs in the |>Atari Macro Assembler. Since I've just started using it, what are these bugs? Ugh...it has been so long ago that I don't remember them all!! I'll try to recap what I can: 1. AMAC does NOT work under SpartaDOS. They do something tricky with the I/O that most programs don't do. 2. I've seen symbols get "lost" somewhere when you write large programs. By lost I mean they get undefined, etc. Sorry, I can't elaborate further, but I do know I spent many hours pulling my hair out on this one. 3. (not a bug) Larger programs get tedious in the edit..assemble.. run..boot.. cycle. You need to load a separate editor, and AMAC itself isn't small. Unfortunately, these are the major points I can remember. I started using MAC-65 and found it was MUCH easier to use than AMAC. There are a couple of things missing in MAC-65, but assembly time is reduced TREMENDOUSLY using MAC-65, it works under SpartaDOS, it has a built-in editor -- all in all I found using MAC-65 a pleasure. I recommend it over AMAC if at all possible. +------------------------------------+----------------------------------------+ | Gil Kloepfer, Jr. | Net-Address: | | ICUS Computer Group, Systems Dvlp. | {boulder,ihnp4,talcott}!icus!limbic!gil| | P.O. Box 1 | Voice-net: (516) 968-6860 | | Islip Terrace, New York 11752 | Othernet: limbic!gil@icus.UUCP | ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jun 88 13:53 EDT From: "Ray C" To: info-atari8@score.stanford.edu Subject: DUP.SYS and Atariwriter You can load the DUP.SYS file into Atariwriter and change the menu, I have done that before. The only thing that you have to make sure of is that you don't delete or add even one single byte, or the system will crash!! This is harder than it sounds, because of the word wrapping.. Actually, it is easier to make these changes with a disk editor because you don't have to worry about the word wrap. Ray C. Bitnet: phr140@urimvs ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jun 88 19:28 EDT From: "Jim Shaffer, Jr." Subject: PD disassemblers To: info-atari8@score.STANFORD.EDU X-Vms-To: IN%"atari" What, in anyone's opinion, is the best public domain disassembler? There are so many on CompuServe that I can't decide, and I certainly don't have time or money enough to try them all. Gary Duzan: If you're still online, could you mail me another copy of Codebuster? I had to purge the old copy during a disk space crisis... ------------------------------ End of Info-Atari8 Digest ************************** -------