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From: sam@ncsuvx.ncsu.edu (Whad Upp)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc
Subject: Re: OS/2 Anyone?
Message-ID: <1896@ncsuvx.ncsu.edu>
Date: 14 Jun 88 13:03:04 GMT
References: <1866@ncsuvx.ncsu.edu> <216100037@trsvax> <1084@usfvax2.EDU>
Reply-To: sam@ncsuvx.UUCP (Whad Upp)
Organization: NCSU Computing Center, Raleigh, NC
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In article <1084@usfvax2.EDU> whitley@usfvax2.usf.edu.UUCP (John S. Whitley II) writes:
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>   I do not support the idea that any UNIX variant for a PC/PS type machine
>is suitable.  OS/2 with the Presentation Manager and the enforced machine
>compatability from SAA is specifically designed for use on PS/2 class 
>machines. Unix is a wonderful operating system, but alas, I don't think
>anyone will create a Unix based standard anywhere near as nice as the 
>OS/2 & Pres. Manager combination(SAA).  

What about every vendor selling X with their UNIX. Even IBM. I don't see
where the PM will be much more than MS Windows that is more tightly integrated
into OS/2. It doesn't facilitate distributed processing. And it will only
run on OS/2 machines. If you want something that is going to be portable to
the most platforms write it for UNIX. IBM now has UNIX running on all their
machines. Soon AIX will be running on the PS/2. 

>Besides, the big compiler vendors
>in the DOS market are making their compilers for OS/2 now, NOT Unix.  
>Turbo C on Unix, I think not!  Nor anything with "Microsoft" on the label.
>I would enjoy dicussion of possibilities concerning the future of Unix and
>the personal environment, for I could easily be wrong! :-)
>

I think that Apple went to UNIX for the Mac II for a good reason. I think
IBM has UNIX running on most of their platforms for a good reason. I think
that DEC now accepts UNIX, because they have to. I think that every major
vendor of UNIX which includes all of them have included X in their next
release for a good reason.

This is not 1981. UNIX is not without applications. UNIX is the OS of
32 bit workstations. What we have with the new micros is 32 bit workstations.

When you talk standards I don't think that OS/2-SAA is valid. Of course,
the only reason that OS/2 will evolve is MSDOS. Which is unfortunate, because
OS/2 does MSDOS worse than other vendor machines. The Amiga allows DOS to
run concurrently within an AmigaDOS window. The Sun 386i will run
multiple versions of MSDOS in SunView windows. The Sun solution sounds like a
good one - migrate from DOS to UNIX. From an outdated operating system to an
already established operating system. 

You speak of the fall of UNIX. Maybe you should consult HP, DEC, Sun, Apple,
MIT, and IBM; for they are heading in the wrong direction.

>John Whitley II -- whitley@usfvax2.usf.edu
>
>

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