Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!lll-winken!lll-tis!ames!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!osu-cis!killer!tness7!bellcore!faline!thumper!ulysses!gamma!mibte!uisc1!adf From: adf@uisc1.UUCP (Andre Franklin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc Subject: Re: OS/2 Anyone? Summary: OS/2 fanatics & the real world Message-ID: <78@uisc1.UUCP> Date: 14 Jun 88 16:02:08 GMT References: <1866@ncsuvx.ncsu.edu> <216100037@trsvax> <1084@usfvax2.EDU> <693@omen.UUCP> Organization: Unicorn Information Systems Corp, Detroit, MI, USA Lines: 41 In article <693@omen.UUCP>, caf@omen.UUCP (Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX) writes: > In article <1084@usfvax2.EDU> whitley@usfvax2.usf.edu.UUCP (John S. Whitley II) writes: > :OS/2 & Pres. Manager combination(SAA). Besides, the big compiler vendors > :in the DOS market are making their compilers for OS/2 now, NOT Unix. > :Turbo C on Unix, I think not! Nor anything with "Microsoft" on the label. > > The SCO Xenix C compiler *is* the Microsoft C compiler, minus > a few of the bugs that infest the DOS flavors. > > As for hackers and free software, it's hard to say, but > consider: One really wants a 386 box with a good sized disk to > run OS/2, and such a box runs 386 *nix just fine, thank you. > There's a cornucopia of PD Unix software to entice the hacker > (X windows, GNU, Netnews, Nethack, comp.sources.*) and one can > put *nix on one's disk for less $$$ than OS/2 and an "equivalent" > set of "quality" tools. It became obvious very quickly, to me anyway, that Mr. John S. Whitley II is more than likely an IBM employee whose paycheck depends on his success at convincing the public that OS/2 is not the flop and failure which it is rapidly showing itself to be. Let's face it, IBM (or at least it's end-user oriented side) stopped being state of the art when the second computer company entered the market. Releasing its 286-based PS/2 system after competitors had already released working 386 systems showed once again that IBM is nothing but a giant on its way to the graveyard. PS/2 doesn't even come close to UNIX, either in terms of ability (everything it brags about has been available under *NIX for years), cost (*NIX is way cheaper to install and maintain), support (because you are not tied to one supplier whose sole interest is the buck you have many suppliers to select from, which increases competitiveness and quality), or software selection, free and otherwise. IBM will, however, be here a while longer, mostly for the same reason why we still have people grinding out code in Cobol. There are so many people who are somehow tied to IBM's old boy network, that no matter how poor their quality, how overpriced their equipment and support, and how inferior they they may, there will always be fools who will buy because of the label rather than because of true substance. C'est la vie, I suppose. "If stupidity hurt, the vast majority of the human race would do nothing all day but scream!"