Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!lll-winken!lll-tis!ames!amdahl!nsc!voder!apple!phil From: phil@Apple.COM (Phil Ronzone) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: I just thrashed my Hard Disk! Message-ID: <12288@apple.Apple.COM> Date: 16 Jun 88 16:00:49 GMT References: <3599@okstate.UUCP> <76000227@uiucdcsp> Reply-To: phil@apple.apple.com.UUCP (Phil Ronzone) Organization: Apple Computer A/UX Group Lines: 36 In article <76000227@uiucdcsp> gillies@uiucdcsp.cs.uiuc.edu writes: >..........................FLAME ON!!!!!............................. >It's scandalous that Apple provides AN EXTREMELY POOR SCAVENGER (disk >first aid) with their machine. This is a sign of professionalism, and >Apple *isn't* *professional*. Apple looks like a bunch of hackers to me! Not yet having my caffeine in the morning, I am compelled by a feeling of [nasty feeling best left unexpressed] to add fuel to this flame. This is no doubt engendered by having spent last night fixing an Eagle disk drive with mucho new bad blocks off an Emulex controller. Doing this for a friend does not make that unpleasant task any easier. The power glitch that got the Eagle totally warped the shoebox on the SUN. Ever try adding a second shoebox on a 3/50? Without manuals. Thus, upon reading the above flame, my unstoppable reaction is of course to say "back up that gasoline tanker and open 'er wide ...". The better reaction is ask if indeed is not the rest of the world (that are selling products, not RD nowhere efforts) much worse? And the best reaction is to sigh and realize that the promise of the Macintosh easy-to-use interface makes us all want easy to use computers. And if we don't get it in some feature, we bitch. However, if this particular flame was addressed by Apple with intensive software hardware efforts, involving close melding of disk drivers, disk firmware, and so on - someone would then bitch that it's hard to add on their el-cheapo Taiwanese "wonder disk drive" and that Apple does this closed hardware/software design blah-blah-blah ... So you want easy to use computers? And like maybe we all lose our jobs? :-) ----------------------------------------------------------------- -- Philip K. Ronzone A/UX System Architect Apple Computer MS 27AJ 10500 N. DeAnza Blvd. Cupertino CA 95014 {amdahl,decwrl,sun,voder,nsc,mtxinu,dual,unisoft}!apple!phil "In A/UX Release 4.0, /bin will still be there ...." P. Zigbooli