Xref: utzoo comp.unix.xenix:2503 comp.terminals:754 Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!husc6!uwvax!rutgers!mtunx!whuts!homxb!hropus!ki4pv!tanner From: tanner@ki4pv.uucp (Dr. T. Andrews) Newsgroups: comp.unix.xenix,comp.terminals Subject: Re: SCO and the attribute byte Summary: these terminals \fBcan\fP be dealt with. (trust me, he says...) Keywords: professional lyrix televideo Message-ID: <6957@ki4pv.uucp> Date: 18 Jun 88 02:15:31 GMT References: <38@wzlr.UUCP> <691@nod2sco> Organization: CompuData, Inc., DeLand Lines: 55 In article <691@nod2sco>, rosso@sco.COM (Ross Oliver) writes: ) [ notes SCO's reluctance to deal with "magic cookie" terminals ] ) This is NOT a software problem, it is an artifact of some terminals. ) ... For instance, if you attempt ) to display the words "SCO Professional" with the characters "Pro" ) in reverse video, the terminal would display "SCO *Pro*fessional", As one who has written rather a lot in support of terminals plagued by the magic cookie glitch (sg#1, ug#1), allow me to offer a little easily forgotten advice. First of all, choose what you reverse-videate (highlight) carefully. If you can arrange that it is surrounded by spaces, you win. That's where you put the "magic cookie". (Yes, I've written lots and lots of stuff which uses reverse video and the occasional underline. You forgot ug#1, didn't you? This approach is viable) There is the occasional case where you will have to tolerate a spare space where a magic cookie lives. An editor which highlights a block of text will almost assuredly suffer here. It won't be painful if the program is aware of the spaces eaten by the terminal, but if the program doesn't notice that sg#1 is set in the termcap file then there will be a real problem. One example of a program which is not very clever in this regard is "more", which takes sequences of "x\b_" to generate an underlined "x" using "us" and "ue" strings. It doesn't look at "ug#1", and so "nroff" output piped through it looks bad on such lines. Try it to see where the pitfalls of the "magic cookie" lie. ) This prevents reverse and normal characters from being displayed next ) to each other, Unless the normal character (the blank on a tvi doesn't appear in RV) happens to be a blank. In many applications (eg: a database package showing columns of crud, with an entry highlighted) there will be room for a magic cookie instead of a regular space. There is of course another problem, widely ignored, which I choose to call "flash". Take a screen without any magic cookies. Put a reverse video "magic cookie" up there, in preparation for display of some RV text. Notice that the screen flashes. Ugly, isn't it? The "good" thing to do is to first stick the "se" magic cookie where you expect the end of the string to be. Position the cursor to drop in the "so" magic cookie (if you have room for it, position one char BEFORE the text is to be displayed, to allow room for that magic cookie). This way, the display works nicely. Seeing that I've been addressing this problem with nice displays from back in our CP/M days, I have little sympathy for folks who don't make at least a good effort. Saying "sorry, but you really should have bought a different terminal" doesn't wash. (That tvi950 I use is a survivor from our CP/M days. Still works.) -- rutgers!bpa!cdin-1!cdis-1!ki4pv!tanner (better than it looks!) or... {allegra codas killer decvax!ucf-cs}!ki4pv!tanner