Xref: utzoo news.groups:4564 news.admin:2647 Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!yale!cmcl2!phri!roy From: roy@phri.UUCP (Roy Smith) Newsgroups: news.groups,news.admin Subject: Re: Democracy at work: Big brother is watching Message-ID: <3354@phri.UUCP> Date: 16 Jun 88 01:56:58 GMT References: <56436@sun.uucp> <15613@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu> <10932@agate.BERKELEY.EDU> <4342@medusa.cs.purdue.edu> Reply-To: roy@phri.UUCP (Roy Smith) Organization: Public Health Research Inst. (NY, NY) Lines: 34 I used to be one of those concientious SAs who read all of news.admin and news.newgroups and all those other fun groups and kept track of what was going on. Over the past few weeks I've done a full about face and turned into one of those who-gives-a-shit SAs who can't be bothered to keep up with what groups are being created and what groups aren't. Why the change of heart? Mostly this comp.women garbage. I just absolutely can't believe that *any* decision requires this much discussion; certainly not a decision as trivial as whether to create a newsgroup or not. Come on guys; you're all starting to sound like lawyers (or possibly worse) government officials. Rule number one of running anything: when faced with a choice, make up your mind and do it. A bad decision is almost always better than no decision at all. Personally, I don't think comp.women should be created (I do like the comp.society.{risks,women,etc} idea). But, obviously 250 or so people disagree with me and took the time to send in their votes. What more do we need? A few years back I proposed rmgrouping net.general; I barely got 250 votes total! Create the damn group and get it on with your lives. What difference could it possibly make one way or the other that's worth all this screaming and yelling? A suggestion: why don't all the involved parties just get together at Usenix and duke it out; when you all get back, let us know how it turned out and spare us any more public feuding. You know, for a while I was sad that I wasn't going to be able to make this Usenix; if you guys follow my advice and argue about comp.women there, at least I'll have some reason to be glad I stayed away. -- Roy Smith, System Administrator Public Health Research Institute 455 First Avenue, New York, NY 10016 {allegra,philabs,cmcl2,rutgers}!phri!roy -or- phri!roy@uunet.uu.net