Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!grand!rwwetmore From: rwwetmore@grand.waterloo.edu (Ross Wetmore) Newsgroups: comp.misc Subject: Re: Intellectual property/copyrights Message-ID: <19709@watmath.waterloo.edu> Date: 2 Jul 88 00:16:00 GMT References: <9160@cisunx.UUCP> <1801@uhccux.UUCP> <807@netxcom.UUCP> <501@novavax.UUCP> <309@proxftl.UUCP> <2096@pt.cs.cmu.edu> <1804@looking.UUCP> Sender: daemon@watmath.waterloo.edu Reply-To: rwwetmore@math.Uwaterloo.ca (Ross Wetmore) Distribution: world Organization: U. of Waterloo, Ontario Lines: 38 In article <1804@looking.UUCP> brad@looking.UUCP (Brad Templeton) writes: >The creations of your own mind are the truest form of personal property >there is. Just because information *could* be unowned doesn't mean that it >would be better if it were. >-- >Brad Templeton, Looking Glass Software Ltd. -- Waterloo, Ontario 519/884-7473 I believe a recent court ruling in Canada indicates that information cannot be owned. The case involved a union accused of stealing a list of confidential information on employees which it subsequently used in recruiting. The charges of theft were dismissed on the grounds that information could not be stolen, though had they taken the paper it was written on this would not have been the case. This is from memory of the newspaper article, so if someone has more concrete information please feel free to correct me. I think it is critical to make a distinction between ideas or information and the intellectual work that goes into creating a finished product. Copyright has always applied to 'works of art' and not raw ideas. Just because Brad's mind creates an idea is no reason to presume that no one else's mind is capable of creating a similar idea, and to accuse everyone of theft because they express an idea that someone may have expressed before is neither sensible nor practical. Ideas are and always should be communal entities. However, intellectual work to assemble a collection of ideas into a useful or artistic product needs to be rewarded. One needs a better definition of intellectual property that clearly recognizes when a collection of ideas is a true expression of individual work that is no longer communal but a distinct entity that can be owned. This is obviously very difficult, and the extreme positions of: any idea I have is my property, or no intellectual property can be owned by any individual are obviously both full of undesirable pitfalls. Ross W. Wetmore | rwwetmore@water.NetNorth University of Waterloo | rwwetmore@math.Uwaterloo.ca Waterloo, Ontario N2L 3G1 | {uunet, ubc-vision, utcsri} (519) 885-1211 ext 3491 | !watmath!rwwetmore