Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!husc6!mailrus!purdue!decwrl!hplabs!ucbvax!TWG.COM!kzm From: kzm@TWG.COM (Keith McCloghrie) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc Subject: Re: multiplexing interfaces (was 'ethernet over pcnet') Message-ID: <8807020104.aa01228@Louie.UDEL.EDU> Date: 2 Jul 88 01:26:27 GMT References: <8806302243.AA04705@vax.ftp.com> Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 56 James, If I understand correctly, the Excelan and Bridge solutions in your list only work with their own hardware, in which case users must replace all the existing hardware boards in each of their PCs. All the others that you list are your own customers !!! However, it is still only a small subset of all the available permutations of boards/technologies. I agree that the breakthrough will come when the likes of 3Com and Novell support multiplexing interfaces. The MAC/Vector interface from 3Com has, for some time, been promising to provide one half of this, but I understand it may now be slated as an integral part of LAN Manager (which will come with its own version of TCP/IP, and a whole lot more). However, your solution does not meet the requirement stated in Brendan's original message. It is a subtle distinction, but I think it's worth clarifying that there are multiple different user-requirement scenarios here : 1) a user who has an already-installed proprietary LAN, who wants to expand the possible connectivity of his PCs to include hosts on a TCP/IP network. Here, the best solution is the one which provides the minimum disruption/effort/problems. It is clear that IP-over-Netbios provides less or equal disruption, without imposing any limits on connectivity. As stated in my previous message, this is available from several public domain sources, and at least one commercial vendor (us). 2) a user who is setting up a new network in order to provide his PCs with connectivity to TCP/IP-based hosts. For such a user, the best solution is to ignore proprietary LANs and use TCP/IP exclusively (unless there is a financial advantage in a proprietary LAN). If proprietary LANs are ignored, any TCP/IP package for DOS can be used. 3) a user who is setting up a new network and wants to have both the functionality of a proprietary LAN plus connectivity to TCP/IP-based hosts. This is the case where the extra complexity of a multiplexing interface becomes potentially worthwhile, but even so, the extra complexity is not just at installation/configuration-time, but there is also a greater or equal level of continuing network management support because of the use of multiple protocols at the link layer. There's also the issue that some proprietary LANs consist of multiple segments, where the segments are tied together by, say, a Novell IPX-gateway, rather than a MAC-level bridge. In this case, full connectivity for TCP/IP across the whole multi-segment LAN, is not possible if multiplexing is done at the driver interface. If/when Novell provide a multiplexing interface to allow multiple protocols to run on top of IPX, then this is probably the optimum level at which to interface (i.e. using IPX as the sub-network layer) if the requirements for extra functionality demand the extra complexity. Keith.