Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!husc6!bloom-beacon!bu-cs!purdue!decwrl!hplabs!hp-sdd!ucsdhub!sdcsvax!ucsd!ucbvax!VAX.FTP.COM!jbvb From: jbvb@VAX.FTP.COM (James Van Bokkelen) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc Subject: Re: multiplexing interfaces (was 'ethernet over pcnet') Message-ID: <8807020308.AA01043@vax.ftp.com> Date: 2 Jul 88 03:08:57 GMT References: <8807020133.AA00845@vax.ftp.com> Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 42 I agree, that my message wasn't intended to answer Brendan's stated question, which revolved around what he could do with his existing IBM PC LAN cards. I didn't reply to the original message, since I had nothing specific to say about it. However, in the course of giving Brendan a pretty good solution for his broadband cards, you touched on the subject of multiplexing interfaces, and I felt that I did have something to say about them... Your mention implied that multiplexing interfaces were relatively new on the scene, and rare, when in fact, commercial offerings of multiplexing interfaces considerably pre-date and outnumber the IP-over-NETBIOS variety you described. This was why I changed the subject line... A correction: I mentioned the IBM Adapter Support Interface (TOKREUI) as being one of the multiplexing hardware drivers, supported by TCP/IP from both us and IBM, as well as most LAN programs (I haven't yet encountered anyone who wrote their own driver for the IBM 802.5 adapter). I view this as an excellent example of what can be done with a properly designed and documented multiplexing interface. It has even been supported by some of IBM's competitors in the 802.5 market (although the quality of the emulation can be uneven, just like many non-IBM NETBIOSes). We have placed a somewhat less elaborate interface in the public domain (our Packet Driver spec), which has been used by about half of the FTP OEMs and customers I mentioned. A version of the CMU PC-IP which supports this has been done by Karl Auerbach, and other p-d and commercial software may appear in the future. We obviously don't have the clout of 3Com or Microsoft, but our spec has been in the field for more than a year, and wins on a few technical considerations, as well (MAC/Vector binds only device drivers, and doesn't have an un-bind function). One further comment: Banyan Vines 3.0 servers function as IP routers, using both the normal IP encapsulation for each attached LAN (if a standard encapsulation exists), and an IP-over-Banyan encapsulation which allows TCP/IP to be used on any of the less-standardized LANs that Vines has been implemented on. This is an effort in the direction of "full connectivity for TCP/IP across the whole multi-segment LAN" that goes somewhat further than using NETBIOS (with its one-cable addressing limitations) as a local encapsulation. Perhaps other LAN vendors will develop similar offerings. James VanBokkelen FTP Software Inc.