Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!husc6!bloom-beacon!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!mailrus!ames!pasteur!ucbvax!VAX.ACS.OPEN.AC.UK!ADVISORY From: ADVISORY@VAX.ACS.OPEN.AC.UK Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st Subject: No such user A_MONK Message-ID: <8807011925.AA02747@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> Date: 1 Jul 88 16:26:32 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 406 From: FTP_Manager 1-JUL-1988 16:20 To: POSTMASTER Subj: Network mail failure Unable to return Network Mail to EARN.FINHUTC. Please check your Network Autho Local Mail delivery failed to following Usernames: A_MONK Mail text: Received: from UKACRL by UK.AC.RL.IB (Mailer X1.25) with BSMTP id 3639; Fri, 01 Jul 88 16:19:49 BS Received: by UKACRL (Mailer X1.25) id 3615; Fri, 01 Jul 88 16:19:46 BST Date: Thu, 30 Jun 88 18:56:02 PDT Reply-To: Info-Atari16@EDU.STANFORD.SCORE Sender: "Atari ST users forum (INFO-ATARI16)" Comments: Warning -- original Sender: tag was Info-Atari16-request@Score.Stanford.E From: Info-Atari16 Digest Subject: Info-Atari16 Digest V88 #298 To: ALASDAIR MONK Info-Atari16 Digest Thursday, June 30, 1988 Volume 88 : Issue 298 This weeks Editor: Bill Westfield Today's Topics: Re: UUCP for the Atari ST Re: mega woes, continued disk drive data disaster, part 2 Re: The archive at lakesys Wall Street Wizard (the stock market simulation) Re: minix Re: Assembler Re: C compilers on the ST Re: Mono shakes/Uniterm blues how Turning off vertical blank interrupts Re: Midi Mega's Re: disk drive data disaster, part 2 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 25 Jun 88 06:47:35 GMT From: marque!gryphon!lakesys!mark@csd1.milw.wisc.edu (Mark Storin) Subject: Re: UUCP for the Atari ST To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu In article <43921@felix.UUCP> preston@felix.UUCP (Preston Bannister) writes: > >Does a UUCP equivalent for the Atari ST exist? > Yes, UUPC has been ported to the ST. Source is available from the lakesys netlib server (the index was just posted yesterday). -- Mark A. Storin Lake Systems, Milw., WI UUCP: ,ihnp4,uwvax-!uwmcsd1!lakesys!mark ------------------------------ Date: 24 Jun 88 16:01:28 GMT From: mcvax!unido!tub!tmpmbx!netmbx!hase@uunet.uu.net (Hartmut Semken) Subject: Re: mega woes, continued To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu In article <[gw.scri.fsu.edu].B16E2EA0.00914A12.PETCHER> PETCHER@FSU.BITNET writes: >Now that I have recieved my replacement mega2 and have been working with it for >awhile, I have discovered that it also has problems. For one, my disk drive >has the famed media change problem - whenever I take out a write enabled disk >and replace it with a second write enabled disk, the disk drive doesn't >recognize the media change! This was reported previously on the net to be a Maybe the drive has a "media changed" output on Pin 2. A Diode (4148) from Pin 2 to the write-protected pin could fix it (?). >problem of a certain batch of Chinon drives used by third party vendors, but I >did not expect to find it in the 'off-the-shelf' mega! As it turns out, I may >also have other problems with the blitter (see, my letter on Uniterm vs. the >blitter). Although the final analysis is not yet in, I have certainly had some Hm, this seems to be a well known bug in the Bitter. Here in Germany we have a little Program around, fixing the problem. Maybe I'll post it here. I've never tried it, because I have no Blitter; in fact, I have one but do not know how to connect it to my 520 ST+ (I get no cirurit drawings of the Mega...). >newer, the main point is this: > > *** flame on *** > >IF ATARI IS NOT ABLE TO PRODUCE STABLE HARDWARE, NO MATTER HOW THEY MARKET >THEIR EQUIPMENT THEY WILL NEVER MAKE IT IN THE BUSINESS MARKET. > > *** flame off *** Do not flame Atari for the unstable Blitter. This is a problem, the semiconductor company (General Instruments?) has (the Blitter seems to be too complicated for their machines 8-). But *flame* *them* for using cheap sockets and circurit boards (and noisy fans). Flame them for their circurit design (unbuffered outputs of the soundchip to Centronics). No, wait!! Stop flaming them! They could start making the hardware more stable; this would put me out of buisiness (I'm fixing "broken" STs...8-) >Don't get me wrong. I do like my Atari, and intend to do what it takes to get >a workable system. It is still the best micro on the market for my purposes Me too. I like it, but some day the fixes will be more expensive than another ("real") machine. >Perhaps I am the victim of a wild fluctuation of statistics that occurred in >the vicinity of Tallahassee and my experience is far from usual. I certainly >hope so for Atari's sake. Perhaps You are a victim of temperature. The power supply of the mega seems to be the same as the one of the SH205. I got rid of it (and built one myself) and my harddisk problems were gone! hase -- Hartmut Semken, Lupsteiner Weg 67, 1000 Berlin 37 hase@netmbx.UUCP High on a rocky promontory sat an Electric Monk on a bored horse. (D. Adams) ------------------------------ Date: 23 Jun 88 23:01:51 GMT From: umbc3!cbw1!@umd5.umd.edu (Jonathan S. Drukman) Subject: disk drive data disaster, part 2 To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu You may or may not recall that I was having problems with frequent and inexplicable data errors on my SF 314 floppy. I received many letters, and thanks to all who wrote. The mail I received indicated that basically _anything_ could be the problem - the disk controller chip, the head alignment, dirty heads, bad disks... And the answer is - I have absolutely no idea what. The drive magically fixed itself the very day I planned to take it into a store for head alignment. This was over a week ago and it hasn't even hiccuped since. All the disks that were "unformattable" and "completely damaged" are now perfect. I have thrown out most of the really troublesome ones. My advice to those with this problem is the following: pick the drive up, shout in a loud voice: "I'm going to take my drive to the store now for alignment. Oops, looks like I won't make it in time." and slam it back down on the desk with a gentle yet firm touch. It worked for me. ----------- Jon Drukman University`of Massachusetts BITNET: jsd@umass ARPANET:"Naked man calm own, I'll give you some strawberry cake." - sugarcubes ------------------------------ Date: 24 Jun 88 20:44:42 GMT From: att!chinet!mcdchg!clyde!watmath!mks!wheels@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Gerry Wheeler) Subject: Re: The archive at lakesys To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu In article <766@lakesys.UUCP>, martin@lakesys.UUCP (Martin Wiedmeyer) writes: > For those who are wondering, here's the latest index from netlib@lakesys: > flip_026c/part.uaa 880614 Use the other side of a SS disk I've seen references to this a couple of times, but I don't understand what it's about. You can't insert a 3.5" diskette in upside down. (Can you?) Anybody using this? What does it do? -- Gerry Wheeler Phone: (519)884-2251 Mortice Kern Systems Inc. UUCP: uunet!watmath!mks!wheels 35 King St. North BIX: join mks Waterloo, Ontario N2J 2W9 CompuServe: 73260,1043 ------------------------------ Date: 24 Jun 88 22:20:09 GMT From: att!chinet!mcdchg!clyde!watmath!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!me!ecf!forbesr@uc bvax.Berkeley.EDU (Robert James Forbes) Subject: Wall Street Wizard (the stock market simulation) To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu This is an unabashed advertisement for a new stock market simulation called `WALL STREET WIZARD' available for the ST. This is being privately distributed (for now) so I thought I'd let you know. An abbreviated version of the game has just appeared in the latest issue of STart magazine. Wall Street Wizard is a stock market misulation that runs on any ST (but you need a colour monitor). The object of Wall Street Wizard is to begin with $10 000 and turn that into a million dollars in a year. Your job is to buy and sell (the way your capitalist friends do). The computer informs you of occasional market flurries and generally does its best to reproduce the market at its wildest. Industry insiders may try to sway your buying decisions but a little discernment is required. You don't have to go it alone -- three stockbrokers (Wildeyed Willy, Cautious Charlie and Nervous Norman) can be consulted with a click and a little cash. The Market index shows you how well each company is performing; well, how it has performed so far -- how it will perform is the question, isn't it? So far, I'm told (by its creator) that Wall Street Wizard is getting rave reviews from around the world. One stock broker wrote to find out how he could buy stock -- in the game! Well, you can't yet. But you can get the full version of the game, complete with margin trading, company financial reports and three levels of play. For ordering information, contact Tony Lovell, Lovell Marketing, 699 Eglinton Ave. West, Suite 207, Toronto, Ontario M5N 1C6, Canada. Or, heck, send your name to me. I'll pass it on to Tony. It seems to me that you may learn how to invest all that money that you make at your job a lot more wisely after playing a few rounds of Wall Street Wizard. And, in the meantime you won't lose your proverbial ... _____________________________ Bob Forbes Dept. of EE, University of Toronto ------------------------------ Date: 24 Jun 88 20:54:52 GMT From: oodis01!uplherc!sp7040!jsp@tis.llnl.gov (John Peters) Subject: Re: minix To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu In article <1737@cosmo.UUCP>, hase@cosmo.UUCP (Juergen Seeger) writes: > I'v installed Tanenbaum's MINIX on an Atari ST. How did you get it?????? Has Prentis Hall released it?????? Better yet how can I get it??????? -- Johnnie -- ------------------------------ Date: 24 Jun 88 20:46:40 GMT From: oodis01!uplherc!sp7040!jsp@tis.llnl.gov (John Peters) Subject: Re: Assembler To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu In article <1946@netmbx.UUCP>, fischer@netmbx.UUCP (Axel Fischer) writes: > Recently I looked for a good assembler package for the Atari ST but I couldn't > deceide which one I should buy. > > Could any please give me some advise and maybe a little comparision what they > perform and cost ? > I would like to make a request for some information about the assembler that is included with the MWC package. I use MWC alot and would like to try some assembly. Is this much like the UNIX assembler. Is there a macro package like M4 available for it. I have quite a bit of samplers for a UNIX machine with a MC680X0 chip. It has always helped me to be able to look directly at samples while trying new stuff. (Yes I realize all hooks to the O.S. will be vastly different. When all else fails link in libc.a and use the standard functions. -- Johnnie -- ------------------------------ Date: 24 Jun 88 20:36:04 GMT From: oodis01!uplherc!sp7040!jsp@tis.llnl.gov (John Peters) Subject: Re: C compilers on the ST To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu In article <3130@crash.cts.com>, sreeb@pnet01.cts.com (Ed Beers) writes: > While Alcyon seems to work ( I got it with my developers kit in addition to > MWC ), it lacks a source level debugger. I couldn't live without Csd now. > Csd seems to work very well. The only bug I have encountered is that integers > are displayed as if they were unsigned integers. It has cut my debugging time > in half. > I have to agree with this comment. Alcyon worked (with some problems) so I tried MWC. The first version I fought often with. Version 2 I thought was a breeze to use. With the release of 3.0 and CSD, all I can say is WOW!!! I found bugs in the first day I had been looking at for weeks. I did find one thing I think is a bug though, #line preprocessor statements confuse it. As for some of the others, I tried Lattic (Slow as snails) and anything that requires overlays on a 68000 system can forget it. A lot of the others I have not tried because either they were not around when I was looking or there were horror stories about there use. -- Johnnie -- ------------------------------ Date: 25 Jun 88 13:20:49 GMT From: mcvax!philmds!leo@uunet.uu.net (Leo de Wit) Subject: Re: Mono shakes/Uniterm blues To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu Just joking... In article <6738@cup.portal.com> Alice_Helen_Amore@cup.portal.com writes: >My monochrome developed the shakes when I moved my system, too. I discovered >that the display shook only when the refrigerator motor was cranking. Move ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >your system to an isolated outlet and see if that helps. >Alice Amore My hard disk drive uses a cooling fan, but you won't certainly get a overheating problem 8-). Or maybe you're aiming for supra conduction ? Leo (Shake it, baby; Keep it cool, man.) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jun 88 02:59:55 PDT From: SAVIN%CALSTATE.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU (WHOO YA) Subject: how To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu Subscribe How do I subscribe to info-atari16 digest?? John Kawakami Using a friend's account. ------------------------------ Date: 26 Jun 88 02:56:46 GMT From: att!chinet!saj@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Stephen Jacobs) Subject: Turning off vertical blank interrupts To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu A while ago I asked what would happen if I set the interrupt level of an ST high enough to disable the vertical blank interrupt. The responses were not unanymous, but I got the idea that there should be about a 5% speed increase, against the possibility of crashing GEM. I just tried it in a computation-intensive GEM application. The good news is no crash. The bad news is only maybe a 1% speed-up. By the way: I tested that the vbl interrupt was really disabled by flipping the switch that controls whether my Thomson Ultrascan monitor is claiming to be color or mono: monitor change is detected in the vbl routine. ------------------------------ Date: 25 Jun 88 21:31:37 GMT From: tektronix!reed!percival!actor@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Clif Swinford) Subject: Re: Midi Mega's To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu In article <335@bdt.UUCP> david@bdt.UUCP (David Beckemeyer) writes: > >Oh, and today I got a call from Sig Hartmann at Atari, title here> telling me that I'm "no longer allowed to make negative statements >on USENET" and that he "is my sole contact for Atari related communications". If this outrageous and illegal crap is true (giving you a chance to back out of it, Sig!) then Atari, who have had my wholehearted support for eight years now, have just lost it. Keep in mind that you (Atari) have relied on word-of-mouth to sell your ST's, and my mouth has been as wordy as any. But I and hundreds of others will be spreading poison on your reputation (the poison you apply yourself) if ANY action is taken against Mr. Beckemeyer or BDT. In the United States we are guaranteed the freedom to express our opinions. If the Government were to ask someone what you're asking Beckemeyer it would be a Federal crime. As it is, it is deeply deplorable and scummy. Yes, David is a pain in the ass. Tough. Everyone has critics, and those critics have a right to hold and express opinions. Unless you can find something illegal in his statements, I recommend that you shut up and behave like adults. -- Clif Swinford "This is not a dress rehearsal. It's a f***ing audition!" ..!tektronix!reed!percival!actor fnord ------------------------------ Date: 26 Jun 88 09:40:13 GMT From: marque!gryphon!pnet02!bilbo@csd1.milw.wisc.edu (Bill Daggett) Subject: Re: disk drive data disaster, part 2 To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu jsd@UMass.BITNET (Jonathan S. Drukman) writes: >shout in a loud voice: "I'm going to take my drive to the store now for >alignment. Oops, looks like I won't make it in time." and slam it back >down on the desk with a gentle yet firm touch. It worked for me. Probably something wasn't making a good connection and jaring the drive or flexing the cable fixed it. I plugged an external drive in once and it was completely inop. I disconnected the cable and reconnected it and it has worked faithfully for over 1.5 years. I never saw what might have caused this. It's a tough decision to take something apart that is brand new to make sure something isn't just loose that you can fix real easily. Bill UUCP: ,ihnp4!scgvaxd!cadovax rutgers!marque-!gryphon!pnet02!bilbo INET: bilbo@pnet02.cts.com * Sometimes The Dragon Wins! * Still looking for the best Amiga BBS software to resurrect Bilbo's Hideaway on - but not holding breath! ------------------------------ End of Info-Atari16 Digest ************************** -------